1)
(a)According to the version learned in Sura, Rav Shmuel bar Yitzchak Amar Rav precludes any food that can be eaten raw from the Din of Bishul Akum. What is the Pumbedisian version of Rav's ruling
(b)The ramifications of this Machlokes are small fish, mushrooms and porridge. According to which opinion are they permitted?
(c)On what grounds does Rav Asi Amar Rav prelude small salted fish from Bishul Akum?
(d)Does this mean that they cannot be used for Eruv Tavshilin (when Yom-Tov falls on Friday), for which one requires cooked food?
1)
(a)According to the version learned in Sura, Rav Shmuel bar Yitzchak Amar Rav precludes any food that can be eaten raw from the Din of Bishul Akum. The Pumbedisian version of Rav's statement is - that he precludes food that is not fit to be served at a king's table.
(b)The ramifications of this Machlokes are small fish, mushrooms and porridge - which cannot be eaten raw (and are therefore forbidden according to the Surian version), but which are not generally served at the king's table (and which are therefore permitted according to that of Pumbedisa).
(c)Rav Asi Amar Rav preludes small salted fish from Bishul Akum - because they can be eaten as they are (and we do not consider salting like cooking with regard to 'Bishul Akum').
(d)This does not mean that they cannot be used for Eruv Tavshilin (when Yom-Tov falls on Friday) - because in that regard we apply the principle 'salting is like cooking'.
2)
(a)Rav Yosef rules that if a Nochri prepared a dish of Kasa de'Harsena, it is forbidden. What is 'Kasa de'Harsena'?
(b)Why does Rav Yosef find it necessary to issue this ruling? Why might we have thought otherwise?
(c)What did Rav B'runa Amar Rav say regarding the (cooked) locusts that they found in a field which a Nochri had set alight?
(d)Why do we initially reject the suggestion that Rav's ruling was based on the fact that the owner did not know which locusts were Kasher and which were not?
2)
(a)Rav Yosef rules that if a Nochri prepared a dish of Kasa - )fish-hash fried with flour) it is forbidden.
(b)Rav Yosef finds it necessary to issue this ruling - because we would otherwise have thought - that the hash (which can be eaten as it is) is the key ingredient, and is therefore permitted. So Rav Yosef teaches us that the major ingredient is the flour (which cannot).
(c)Rav B'runa Amar Rav - forbade the (cooked) locusts that they found in a field which a Nochri had set alight.
(d)Initially, we reject the suggestion that Rav's ruling was based on the fact that the owner did not know which locusts were Kasher and which were not - because then, it would not have been necessary to present the case of a Nochri who set the field alight, since then the same ruling would have applied if a Yisrael had done so.
3)
(a)What did Rav Chanan bar Ami ... Amar Rebbi Yochanan say about the ear of an animal's head that a Nochri singed to remove the hair?
(b)By the same token, if they knew which locusts were Kasher, why in the previous case, did Rav forbid them?
(c)Then why did Rav issue his ruling specifically where a Nochri set fire to the field?
3)
(a)Rav Chanan bar Ami ... Amar Rebbi Yochanan permitted the ear of an animal's head that a Nochri singed to remove the hair - since the latter had not intended to cook it.
(b)Consequently, if, in the previous case, they knew which locusts were Kasher - Rav would not have forbidden them, and we are forced to say that in fact, Rav forbade the them because they did not know which locusts were Kasher and which were not.
(c)And the reason that Rav issued his ruling specifically where a *Nochri* set fire to the field is - because that was the case that was presented to him.
4)
(a)Based on Rav Chanan bar Ami ... Amar Rebbi Yochanan's previous ruling (permitting the ear of an animal's head which a Nochri singed to remove the hair), what did Ravina say about a Yisrael who places a pumpkin in an oven in which a Nochri placed a piece of wood to dry, before the Nochri lit it?
(b)Why did Ravina need to say this? Why is it not automatically understood?
4)
(a)Based on Rav Chanan bar Ami ... Amar Rebbi Yochanan's previous ruling (permitting the ear of an animal's head which a Nochri singed to remove the hair), Ravina ruled - that if a Yisrael places a pumpkin in an oven in which a Nochri placed a piece of wood to dry, before the latter lit - the pumpkin is permitted.
(b)Ravina needed to say this - to teach us that the Nochri's intention is (not to cook the piece of wood (in which case the pumpkin would have been forbidden, but) to dry it.
5)
(a)What does Rav Yehudah Amar Shmuel say about a Yisrael who places a piece of meat on the stove to cook and a Nochri comes and stokes it?
(b)This ruling would have been obvious if the meat would have cooked anyway. Does this mean that Shmuel is speaking where it would not otherwise have cooked at all?
5)
(a)Rav Yehudah Amar Shmuel rules that if a Yisrael places a piece of meat on the stove to cook and a Nochri comes and stokes it - the meat is permitted.
(b)This ruling would be obvious if the meat would have cooked anyway. This does not however mean that Shmuel is speaking where it would not otherwise have cooked at all - but where it would otherwise have cooked in two hours, and the Nochri's action caused it to cook in one.
6)
(a)Rebbi Asi Amar Rebbi Yochanan rules that once meat reaches the stage of Ma'achal ben D'rusa'i it is no longer subject to Bishul Akum. What is 'Ma'achal ben D'rusa'i'?
(b)What can we extrapolate from Rebbi Asi's ruling?
(c)What Kashya does create pose on Rav Yehudah Amar Shmuel's ruling?
(d)To reconcile the two rulings, how do we establish that of Rebbi Asi?
(e)We cite a Beraisa that corroborates Rav Yehudah Amar Shmuel's ruling. The Beraisa permits a man to place meat on the coals and to go off to Shul whilst a Nochri turns it over. What similar case does the Tana present concerning a woman?
6)
(a)Rebbi Asi Amar Rebbi Yochanan rules that once meat reaches the stage of Ma'achal ben D'rusa'i - (a robber who used to eat his meat partially [a third or a half] cooked) it is no longer subject to Bishul Akum ...
(b)... implying that before it reaches that stage, it is subject to Bishul Akum ...
(c)... a Kashya on Rav Yehudah Amar Shmuel, who does not differentiate.
(d)We reconcile the two rulings by establishing that of Rebbi Asi - where the Nochri took the meat from a basket before placing it in the oven and stoking it, whereas Rav Yehudah Amar Shmuel is speaking where he found it on the coals and stoked it.
(e)We cite a Beraisa that corroborates Rav Yehudah Amar Shmuel's ruling. The Beraisa permits a man to place meat on the coals and to go off to Shul whilst a Nochri turns it oven. And it presents a similar case - where a woman places a pot on the stove, and goes off to the bathhouse whilst a Nochris stirs the pot.
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7)
(a)On what grounds did Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak rule leniently regarding meat which a Nochri began to roast and a Yisrael then turned it over?
(b)This ruling is corroborated by a statement of Rabah bar bar Chanah (or his brother Rav Acha) Amar Rebbi Yochanan. What did he say in this regard?
(c)Ravina rules that whether the Nochri lit the oven and the Yisrael baked the bread or vice-versa, the bread is permitted. Which third case did he incorporate in this ruling?
7)
(a)Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak ruled leniently regarding meat which a Nochri began to roast and a Yisrael then turned it - based on a 'Kal va'Chomer'. If the meat is permitted when a Nochri completes the process, he asserted, how much more so when it is completed by a Yisrael.
(b)This ruling is corroborated by a statement of Rabah bar bar Chanah (or his brother Rav Acha) Amar Rebbi Yochanan, who said - that whether the Nochri leaves the meat roasting and the Yisrael turns it over or vice-versa, it is permitted, and that it is only forbidden if both are performed by the Nochri.
(c)Ravina rules that whether the Nochri lit the oven and the Yisrael baked the bread or vice-versa, the bread is permitted - and so it is even if the Nochri both lit the oven and baked the bread, as long as the Yisrael stoked the coal.
8)
(a)Chizkiyah permits a fish that is salted by a Nochri, and bar Kapara an egg that is boiled by him. What is the reason for this latter ruling?
(b)What does Rebbi Yochanan rule in both these cases?
(c)When Rav Dimi arrived from Eretz Yisrael, he too, cited Rebbi Yochanan in the same way as we just did. Who, besides Chizkiyah, permitted the salted fish and the roasted egg according to him?
(d)What did Rebbi Chiya Parva'ah rule, based on Rav Dimi's version, when the Resh Galusa's men asked him about an egg roasted by a Nochri?
(e)What happened to poor Rav Z'vid, when he countered Rebbi Chiya Parva'ah's ruling with that of Abaye, who ruled like Rebbi Yochanan?
8)
(a)Chizkiyah permits a fish that is salted by a Nochri, and bar Kapara an egg that is boiled by him - because the food is absorbed inside the shell and the Nochri has no direct contact with it,
(b)Rebbi Yochanan - forbids both.
(c)When Rav Dimi arrived from Eretz Yisrael, he too, cited Rebbi Yochanan in the same way as we just did, only according to him - besides Chizkiyah - bar Kapara also permitted both cases.
(d)When the Resh Galusa's men asked Rebbi Chiya Parva'ah about an egg roasted by a Nochri - he cited Rav Dimi's version of the previous Machlokes, concluding that an individual opinion (Rebbi Yochanan) falls away in face of the a dual one (Chizkiyah and bar Kapara).
(e)When poor Rav Z'vid countered Rebbi Chiya Parva'ah's ruling with that of Abaye, who ruled like Rebbi Yochanan - the Resh Galusa's men (who were upset about this Chumra) promptly fed him with a cup of vinegar, which killed him.
9)
(a)What does the Beraisa say about the flowers of a caper-bush, leek with heads, a mixture called 'Metalya, boiling water and roast ears of corn of a Nochri? What common ruling pertains to all of these?
(b)If the first three are permitted, because they can be eaten raw, which additional reason pertains to the last two?
(c)Another Beraisa equates Metalya with P'shalya and with Shi'asa. According to Rabah bar Chanah Amar Rebbi Yochanan, the recipe for P'shalya came from Egypt forty years earlier. Rabah bar bar Chanah himself said sixty years earlier. How come that he was not arguing with his Rebbe?
(d)The above mixture comrises parsley, flax and fenugreek seeds. In what does one initially soak them?
9)
(a)The Beraisa - permits the flowers of a caper-bush, leek with heads, a mixture called 'Metalya, boiling water and roast ears of corn of a Nochri.
(b)The first three are permitted because they can be eaten raw, the last two - because they remain unchanged (though boiling water ought to be permitted for the first reason, too).
(c)Another Beraisa equates Metalya with P'shalya and with Shi'asa. According to Rabah bar Chanah Amar Rebbi Yochanan, the recipe for Shi'asa came from Egypt forty years earlier. Rabah bar bar Chanah himself said sixty years earlier. He was not arguing with his Rebbe - because he was speaking twenty years later.
(d)The above mixture comrises parsley, flax and fenugreek seeds - which are initially soaked in warm water.
10)
(a)Eventually, the mixture is placed in new barrels which one fills with water into which one places the mixture which has been soaked in clay, until it sprouts from the clay. On what occasion does one eat the shoots?
(b)What effect does it have on the person who eats it?
(c)They claimed that the shoots will grow from it by the time that one emerges from the bathhouse. In this connection, Rav Ashi quoted a brief comment by Rebbi Chanina. What did the latter mean when he said ...
1. ... (according to the first version) 'Milin'?
2. ... (according to the second version) 'be'Milin'?
10)
(a)Eventually, the mixture is placed in new barrels which one fills with water into which one places the mixture which has been soaked in clay, until it sprouts from the clay. One then eats the shoots - after taking a bath.
(b)The effect hat it has on the person who eats it is - that he feels cold from the hair of his head right down to his toe-nails.
(c)They claimed that the shoots will have grown from it by the time one emerges from the bathhouse. In this connection Rav Ashi quoted a brief comment by Rebbi Chanina. When he said ...
1. ... (according to the first version) 'Milin', he meant - that the last statement was a lie.
2. ... (according to the second version) 'be'Milin', he meant - that it will happen only if one chants a specific incantation.
11)
(a)The Beraisa forbids Kuspan (the waste of dates). What is it used for?
(b)Why, is the Kuspan forbidden if it is then placed in boiling water) of Nochrim, which has been prepared in a large cauldron, but permitted it if it is prepared in a small one?
(c)On what grounds do we refute Rebbi Yanai's definition of a small cauldron as one whose neck is too narrow to fit in it a small bird?
(d)So how do we amend Rebbi Yanai's definition?
(e)And how do we reconcile this Beraisa with another Beraisa, which permits Kuspan even if it was prepared in a cauldron with a wide neck?
11)
(a)The Beraisa forbids Kuspan (the waste of dates) - that is used to make beer ...
(b)The Kuspan is forbidden if it is then placed in boiling water) of Nochrim, which has been prepared in a large cauldron, but permitted it if it is prepared in a small one - because the walls can only exude T'reifus if the mouth of the vessel is large enough for T'reifah foods to have been placed in it and cooked, as we shall now see.
(c)We refute Rebbi Yanai's definition of a small cauldron as one whose neck is too narrow to fit in it a small bird - because even if it is, why can the Nochri not have cut up the bird, and cooked the pieces in it?
(d)So we amend Rebbi Yanai's definition to read - ' ... whose neck is too narrow to fit the neck of a small bird' (since this is the smallest piece that one is likely to cook in the cauldron).
(e)We reconcile this Beraisa with another Beraisa, which permits Kuspan even if it has been prepared in a cauldron with a wide neck - by establishing that Beraisa like those who hold 'Nosen Ta'am li'F'gam Mutar' (which we generally assume to be twenty-four hours after the T'reifah foods were cooked in it), whereas our Beraisa holds 'Nosen Ta'am li'F'gam Asur'.
12)
(a)On what grounds did Rav Safra object to Rav Sheishes' ruling forbidding cooked oil? Why was he not worried ...
1. ... that they may have added non-Kasher ingredients?
2. ... about Bishul Akum?
3. ... that the pot may have been used for T'reifus?
(b)When they asked Rebbi Asi about cooked dates, the only problem he saw was with dates that are neither sweet nor bitter. What would he have ruled assuming they were ...
1. ... sweet?
2. ... bitter?
(c)So what was the problem?
(d)In replying to those who posed the She'eilah, he quoted his Rebbe, who forbade them. Who was his Rebbe?
12)
(a)Rav Safra objected to Rav Sheishes' ruling forbidding cooked oil. He was not worried ...
1. ... that they may have added non-Kasher ingredients - because these would cause the oil to go bad.
2. ... about Bishul Akum - because oil is fit to use as it is.
3. ... that the pot may have been used for T'reifus - because we hold 'Nosen Ta'am li'Fegam, Mutar'.
(b)When they asked Rebbi Asi about cooked dates, the only problem he saw was with dates that were neither sweet not bitter. Assuming they were ...
1. ... sweet, he would have ruled - that they are permitted (since they are fit to eat as they are).
2. ... bitter, he would have ruled - that they are forbidden (because they are not).
(c)The problem was - with dates that are somewhere in between, and can therefore be eaten as they are, but only 'be'Sha'as ha'Dechak' (at a pinch).
(d)In replying to those who posed the She'eilah - he quoted his Rebbe, Levi, who forbade them.
13)
(a)Rav disagreed with Shmuel's father and Levi regarding Shesisa'ah (a dish made from flour of roasted grains of corn or from lentils) made by a Nochri. Under which circumstances would vinegar be added to the mixture?
(b)Rav permitted it, whereas Shmuel's father and Levi forbade it. According to the first Lashon, they argued over a Shesisa'ah of lentils that is made with water. What if it is ...
1. ... made with vinegar?
2. ... a Shesisa'ah that consists of corn?
(c)The second Lashon is more stringent than the first. What, according to this Lashon, is ...
1. ... accepted as being forbidden?
2. ... the point over which they are arguing?
(d)Among the things that Barzilai ha'Gil'adi sent David when he fled from Yerushalayim, "Kali" is listed twice. How does Rav explain this.What do we finally say about baskets-full of Shesisa'ah (consisting of corn) that were sent to the markets of Neherda'a?
13)
(a)Rav argued with Shmuel's father and Levi regarding Shesisa'ah (a dish made from flour of roasted grains of corn or from lentils) made by a Nochri. Vinegar would be added to the mixture - if it was excessively sweet, which sometimes happened when they were made with lentils.
(b)Rav permitted it, whereas Shmuel's father and Levi forbade it. According to the first Lashon, they argued over a Shesisa'ah of lentils that is made with water. If it is ...
1. ... made with vinegar - then even Rav will concede that it is forbidden (because it cannot be eaten raw).
2. ... a Shesisa'ah that consists of corn - then even Shmuel's father and Levi agree that it is permitted, since there is nothing on which to decree.
(c)The second Lashon is more stringent than the first. According to this Lashon ...
1. ... lentil Shesia'ah is accepted as being forbidden, and ...
2. ... the point over which they are arguing is - whether the Chachamim decreed Shesisa'ah made of corn on account of one which is made of lentils (Shmuel's father and Levi) or not (Rav).
(d)Among the things that Barzilai ha'Gil'adi sent David when he fled from Yerushalayim, "Kali" is listed twice. Rav explain this - as referring to two kind of Shesisa'ah that Barzilai sent David (one of corn and one of lentils). We finally state that - baskets-full of Shesisa'ah (consisting of corn) that were sent to the markets of Neherda'a, and that nobody said word, because we not hold like the Shmuel of father and Levi.
14)
(a)Our Mishnah lists cooked dishes to which one sometimes adds wine, among the things that are forbidden to eat but Mutar be'Hana'ah. What does Chizkiyah say about cooked dishes that are known to contain wine?
(b)Why is this different than Muryas, which is included in the same list, according to the Rabbanan, even though most people add wine (and it is as if one knew for sure that wine had been added)
(c)Rebbi Yochanan permits the cooked dishes even if one knows for sure that they contain wine. Why is this different than Muryas according to Rebbi Meir, which is Asur be'Hana'ah?
14)
(a)Our Mishnah lists cooked dishes to which one sometimes adds wine among the things that are forbidden to eat but Mutar be'Hana'ah. Dishes which are known to contain wine, says Chizkiyah - are Asur be'Hana'ah, too.
(b)This is different than Muryas, which is included in the same list, according to the Rabbanan, even though most people add wine (and it is as if one knew for sure that wine had been added) - because (unlike Muryas, where the wine is added to remove the smell of fish), the wine is added to enhance the taste.
(c)Rebbi Yochanan permits the cooked dishes even if one knows for sure that they contain wine. This is different than Muryas, which is Asur be'Hana'ah, according to Rebbi Meir - because unlike Muryas, where the wine is actually taken (as one dips one's food into it), here one tends to eat the cooked vegetables, and leave the juice which contains the wine.