(Mishnah): Kodshei Mizbe'ach join with each other for Meilah, Pigul, Nosar and Tamei (if one ate, or regarding Meilah benefited from) a half-Shi'ur from each of two different Korbanos, he is liable;

Kodshei Bedek ha'Bayis join with each other (for Meilah);

Kodshei Mizbe'ach and Kodshei Bedek ha'Bayis are like one. They join for Meilah.

(Gemara) Question: Since the Seifa teaches that Kodshei Mizbe'ach and Kodshei Bedek ha'Bayis join for Meilah like one, even though one is Kedushas ha'Guf and the other Kedushas Damim, there is no need to say that Kodshei Mizbe'ach join with each other! (Tosfos - this is included in saying that they are like one.)

Answer: The Tana needed to teach that Kodshei Mizbe'ach join also for Pigul, Nosar and Tamei, therefore he had to teach a clause just for them. (For parallel structure, he taught a clause just for Kodshei Bedek ha'Bayis.)

(R. Yanai): One is liable for Meilah only for Kodshei Bedek ha'Bayis (and Olah - Tosfos and Shitah delete this from the text).

Question: What is the reason?

Answer: "Nefesh Ki Sim'ol Ma'al... mi'Kodshei Hash-m" teaches that Meilah applies to Kodshim that are wholly for Hash-m, but not to Kodshei Mizbe'ach, for parts of them go to Kohanim or to the owner.

Question (Mishnah): Kodshei Mizbe'ach join with each other for Meilah.

Answer: This refers to Meilah mid'Rabanan.

Question (Mishnah): Meilah applies to Kodshei Kodashim slaughtered in the south.

Answer: This refers to Meilah mid'Rabanan.

Question (Mishnah): If one benefited from a live Chatas (a Ba'al Mum), he was not Mo'el unless he was Pogem (decreased its value). If one benefited from a dead Chatas, he was Mo'el, even if he was not Pogem.

Answer: This refers to Meilah mid'Rabanan.

Question (Beraisa - Rebbi): "Kol Chelev la'Shem" teaches that Meilah applies to Eimurim of Kodshim Kalim.

Answer: This refers to Meilah mid'Rabanan.

Question: He learns from a verse!

Answer: The verse is a mere Asmachta.

Question: Ula said in R. Yochanan's name that if Kodshim died (without Shechitah), mid'Oraisa Meilah no longer applies to them!

Question: What Kodshim does he discuss?

Suggestion: He discusses Kodshei Bedek ha'Bayis.

Rejection: Surely, Meilah applies mid'Oraisa to a carcass of Bedek ha'Bayis, just like it applies to manure Hukdash for Bedek ha'Bayis!

Answer: He refers to Kodshei Mizbe'ach. (Note - normally, the Gemara does not challenge an Amora from the teaching of another Amora, especially from his Talmid! Matan b'Seser answers that the Gemara questions how R. Yochanan could argue with his Rebbi (R. Yanai). This is difficult, for Amora'im (including R. Yochanan, e.g. 5a above) often argue with their teachers. Also, Rashi and R. Gershom explicitly say that the question is against R. Yanai. Perhaps we challenge R. Yanai because we could not explain the Mishnah (2a) without R. Yochanan's teaching. Also, no one argues with R. Yochanan (see Tosfos 16b, DH v'Kalsei) - PF.)

Question: R. Yanai hold that Meilah for Kodshei Mizbeach is not mi'd'Oraisa!

Correction: R. Yanai means that the verse ("Nefesh Ki Sim'ol Ma'al... mi'Kodshei Hash-m") teaches only that there is Meilah for Kodshei Bedek ha'Bayis, but not for Kodshei Mizbe'ach. (We learn the latter from "Ish Ki Yochal Kodesh" or "Kol Chelev la'Shem.")

(Mishnah): Five things offered in (or with) an Olah join (for a Shi'ur of Pigul, Nosar or Tamei) -- the meat, Chelev, flour, wine and oil. The last three comprise the Nesachim. Rashi says that they join also for a Shi'ur for Ha'alas Chutz (offering outside the Mikdash). Tosfos (Zevachim 109a) disagrees. The Mishnah does not discuss joining for Meilah, for the next clause discusses Todah, and Meilah does not apply to its meat or bread.)

Six things offered in (or with) Todah join -- the meat, Chelev, flour, wine, oil and Lachmei Todah.

(Gemara): Rav Huna was teaching our Mishnah to Rava. His text read "five things b'Olam join" (i.e. but never more. Alternatively, five things join with regard to all laws, including Tum'as Ochlim of Chulin).

Objection: It says that six things of Todah join -- the meat, Chelev, flour, wine, oil and Lachmei Todah!

Correction: Rather, it should say "five things b'Olah join."

Our Mishnah teaches like the following Beraisa;

(Beraisa): Meat and Eimurim of an Olah join to a k'Zayis to be liable for Ha'alas Chutz, and for Pigul, Nosar and Tamei.

Inference: Meat and Eimurim of an Olah join, but of Shelamim do not join.

Question: We understand why meat and Eimurim of Shelamim do not join for Ha'alas Chutz. (The meat is not offered in the Mikdash.) Why don't they join for Pigul, Nosar and Tamei?

(Mishnah): All Pigulim join. All Nosarim join.

Answer: The Beraisa means, meat and Eimurim of an Olah join (to the Shi'ur of k'Zayis) to allow Zerikah to be performed, to enable one to be liable for Pigul, Nosar and Tamei.

Question: Who is the Tana of the Beraisa?

Answer: It is R. Yehoshua:

(Beraisa - R. Yehoshua): If a k'Zayis of meat or a k'Zayis of Chelev of any Korban remains, we do Zerikah;

If half a k'Zayis of meat and half a k'Zayis of Chelev remain, we may not do Zerikah. The only exception is Olah. Since all of it is Huktar, the meat and Chelev join to allow Zerikah.

Regarding a Minchah, even if it is totally intact we do not do Zerikah.

Question: There is no Zerikah for a Minchah!

Answer (Rav Papa): The Beraisa refers to Minchas Nesachim (that accompanies a Korban. One might have thought that it is like part of the Korban, and if no meat or Chelev remains, we may do Zerikah due to the Minchah. The Beraisa teaches that this is not so.)

Note:If Terumah is mixed with less than 100 times as much Chulin, or if Se'or (sourdough) of Terumah fermented a Chulin dough, all must be eaten by Kohanim in Taharah, like Terumah.

(Mishnah): The following join to forbid (a mixture like Terumah) and to obligate a Chomesh (if a non-Kohen ate a k'Zayis (some say - Perutah's worth) of them, he repays what he ate plus a Chomesh):

Terumah, Terumas Ma'aser, Terumas Ma'aser of Demai (doubtfully tithed produce), Chalah and Bikurim.

All Pigulim join with each other. All Nosarim join with each other.

(Gemara) Question: Why do all of these join (like Terumah)?

Answer: All of them are called Terumah:

Regarding Chalah it says "Reishis Arisosechem Chalah Tarimu Serumah";

(Beraisa): "U'Serumas Yadecha" refers to Bikurim;

We need not explain the others. (They are explicitly called Terumah.)