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SUMMARY
1. Rava says that if a utensil with blood of a Korban which requires four Matanos became mixed with a utensil with blood of a Korban which requires one Matanah, Rebbi Eliezer and Rebbi Yehoshua disagree about whether the blood of each utensil is placed four times or one time on the Mizbe'ach.
2. Rebbi Yehudah says that if the blood of a Chatas, or a utensil containing the blood of a Chatas, became mixed with the blood of an Olah, both the Chachamim and Rebbi Eliezer agree that the blood is placed on the Mizbe'ach.
3. According to Rebbi Yehudah, the disagreement between Rebbi Eliezer and the Chachamim applies when the blood of a valid Korban, or a utensil containing its blood, became mixed with the blood of a Ba'al Mum.
4. Abaye says that the disagreement between Rebbi Eliezer and the Rabanan, according to the Tana of the Mishnah, applies when the blood of a Chatas became mixed with the blood of an Olah before the Matanos. When the blood became mixed after the Matanos of the Chatas, the blood may be placed on the Mizbe'ach even according to the Chachamim.
5. Rav Yosef says that even if the blood of the Chatas became mixed with the blood of the Olah after the Matanos of the Chatas, the blood may not be placed on the Mizbe'ach, according to the Chachamim.
6. If the blood of one Korban became mixed with the blood of another Korban, it is not Batel.
7. There is a disagreement about whether the blood of the Par and Sa'ir ha'Penimis are mixed together for the Matanos on the Mizbe'ach in the Heichal.
8. The Temurah of a Korban Bechor or Ma'aser may not be brought on the Mizbe'ach.
9. If the blood of a Korban which is placed on the upper part of the Mizbe'ach became mixed with the blood of a Korban which is placed on the lower part of the Mizbe'ach, if the Kohen does not ask about what he should do and he places the blood on the upper part of the Mizbe'ach, he must also place the blood on the lower part of the Mizbe'ach, even according to the Chachamim.
10. Even according to the opinion that if the Shirayim of a Chatas brought in the Heichal was not poured on the Yesod the Korban is Pasul, if some of the blood was missing before it was poured on the Yesod it is valid.
11. If the blood of a Korban which is placed on the Mizbe'ach in the Heichal became mixed with the blood of a Korban which is placed on the Mizbe'ach in the Azarah, it must be poured into the stream in the Azarah.
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A BIT MORE
1. According to Rebbi Eliezer, the blood from both utensils should be placed on the Mizbe'ach four times. The extra Matanos are viewed like water being placed on the Mizbe'ach. According to Rebbi Yehoshua, the blood from both utensils may be placed on the Mizbe'ach only once, because b'Di'eved one Matanah suffices for all Korbanos brought on the outer Mizbe'ach.
2. Rebbi Yehudah disagrees with the Tana of our Mishnah. He maintains that although the blood of an Olah is placed on the lower part of the Mizbe'ach and the blood of a Chatas is placed on the upper part of the Mizbe'ach, if the blood of the two Korbanos become mixed together, even the Chachamim agree that the blood is placed on the Mizbe'ach and the extra blood is viewed as water placed on the Mizbe'ach. However, if the blood of a valid Korban becomes mixed with the blood of a Rove'a or Nirva, both the Chachamim and Rebbi Eliezer agree that the blood may not be placed on the Mizbe'ach at all.
3. According to Rebbi Eliezer, a Gezeiras ha'Kasuv teaches that the blood of a Ba'al Mum may be placed on the Mizbe'ach if it became mixed with the blood of a valid Korban.
4. Since the blood of the Chatas had already been placed on the upper part of the Mizbe'ach the remaining blood may be placed on the lower part of the Mizbe'ach because the blood of the Olah which is part of the mixture is placed on the lower part of the Mizbe'ach and the remaining blood of the mixture is the Shirayim of the Chatas is poured on the Yesod and if it is placed on the lower part of the Mizbe'ach it will run down to the Yesod.
5. According to Rav Yosef, even in this case the Chachamim maintain that the blood is to be poured into the stream in the Azarah and not placed on the Mizbe'ach. This is because the blood of the Olah and the Shirayim of the Chatas must be placed on two different parts of the Mizbe'ach; the blood of a Olah must be placed on the wall of the Mizbe'ach, while the leftover blood of a Chatas must be poured directly on the Yesod. Since it is forbidden to alter the manner in which the Shirayim of the Chatas is poured on the Mizbe'ach, even for the purpose of fulfilling the obligation of Zerikas ha'Dam of the Olah, the blood may not be placed on the Mizbe'ach.
6. Even if the blood of one of the Korbanos is the minority in the mixture, it is not Batel.
7. According to the opinion that the blood of the two Korbanos are mixed together, although the blood of the Par is more than the blood of the Sa'ir, the blood of the Sa'ir is not Batel because the blood of one Korban is not Mevatel the blood of another Korban.
8. In contrast, the Temurah of a Shelamim, of a Todah, or of an Olah may be brought on the Mizbe'ach. However, no bread is brought with the Temurah of a Todah.
9. In Eretz Yisrael ("Ma'aravah"), they explained that the case is when the blood of a Chatas brought in the Azarah became mixed with the Shirayim of a Chatas ha'Penimis. Since the Kohen placed the blood on the upper part of the Mizbe'ach, both Rebbi Eliezer and the Chachamim agree that the remaining blood, which is Shirayim from the two Chata'os, must be poured on the Yesod of the Mizbe'ach, according to the opinion that the Shirayim of both Chata'os are poured on the same part of the Yesod.
10. Therefore, even when the blood of a Chatas brought in the Azarah became mixed with the Shirayim of a Chatas ha'Penimis, and the Kohen placed the blood on the upper part of the Mizbe'ach, the Korban is valid even though some of the Shirayim is missing.
11. If the Kohen placed some of the blood on the outer Mizbe'ach and then placed some of it on the inner Mizbe'ach, both Korbanos are valid b'Di'eved. If, however, he placed the blood first on the inner Mizbe'ach, there is a disagreement about whether the Korban brought in the Azarah is valid.
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