1)
(a)What does ...
1. ... the Tana Kama of the Beraisa learn from the Pasuk (in connection with the Minchah al ha'Machavas) "So'les Belulah"?
2. ... Rebbi learn from the Pasuk (in connection with the Minchas Ma'afeh Tanur) "Chalos ... Belulos"?
(b)How do the Chachamim counter Rebbi from the Korban Todah? What makes it impossible to perform Belilah there once the Chalos have been baked?
(c)According to the text that reads 'Shapir Ka'amri leih Rabbanan le'Rebbi?' ([in question form] with regard to their proof from the Korban Todah), what does Rebbi reply?
1)
(a)On the one hand ...
1. ... the Tana Kama of the Beraisa learns from the Pasuk (in connection with the Minchah al ha'Machavas) "So'les Belulah" - that the mixing takes place whilst the Minchah is still in the flour stage, whilst on the other ...
2. ... Rebbi learns from the Pasuk (in connection with the Minchas Ma'afeh Tanur) "Chalos ... Belulos" - that it takes place after the Chalos have been baked.
(b)The Chachamim counter Rebbi from the Korban Todah, where it would be impossible to mix the oil after the loaves have been baked (since the ten Chalos there require a mere a quarter of a Log of oil [as we will learn in the next Perek]).
(c)According to the text that reads 'Shapir Ka'amri Leih Rabbanan le'Rebbi?' ([in question form] with regard to their proof from the Korban Todah), Rebbi replies - by conceding to the Chachamim by the Chalos of the Todah, but insisting that the Chalos of other Menachos (where their argument is not applicable), require mixing after they have been baked.
2)
(a)According to the Chachamim, the Belilah is followed by kneading the dough. Which three Avodos then precede the Kemitzah?
(b)In which point does the procedure differ according to Rebbi?
2)
(a)According to the Chachamim, the Belilah is followed by kneading the dough, which are followed in turn - by baking, breaking into pieces (Pesisah), adding oil (Yetzikah) and Kemitzah.
(b)According to Rebbi - the Belilah is performed between the Pesisah and the Yetzikah.
3)
(a)What does the Beraisa learn from the Pasuk in Vayikra (in connection with the Minchah Ma'afeh Tanur) ...
1. ... "Chalos ... Belulos"? What does this come to preclude?
2. ... "Rekikin (the wafers) ... Meshuchin ba'Shemen"?
(b)Why would we otherwise have thought that ...
1. ... the Rekikin require Belilah, too?
2. ... the Chalos require Meshichah, as well?
(c)How does the Tana know that both "Belulos" and "Meshuchin" do not pertain to both Chalos and Rekikin?
3)
(a)From the Pasuk in Vayikra (in connection with the Minchah Ma'afeh Tanur) ...
1. ... "Chalos ... Belulos" - the Beraisa precludes the Rekikin (the wafers) from Belilah ...
2. ... and from "Rekikin ... Meshuchin ba'Shemen" - he precludes the Chalos from Meshichah.
(b)We would otherwise have thought that ...
1. ... the Rekikin require Belilah, too - from a 'Kal va'Chomer' from Chalos, which do not require Meshichah (yet they require Belilah).
2. ... the Chalos require Meshichah - from a 'Kal va'Chomer' from Rekikin, which do not require Belilah (yet they require Meshichah).
(c)The Tana know that both "Belulos" and "Meshuchin" cannot pertain to both Chalos and Rekikin - because if they did, the Pasuk would have mentioned Meshichah by Chalos and Belilah by Rekikin, at least once.
4)
(a)The Beraisa discusses a Minchah that consists of half Chalos and half Rekikin. To which Minchah does this refer? Who is the author?
(b)According to Rebbi Shimon ben Yehudah Amar Rebbi Shimon in a Beraisa, the Rekikin are anointed like a Greek 'Chi' (as we described in our Mishnah [see also Tosfos DH 'ke'Miyn Chi']), whilst the remainder of the oil is eaten by the Kohanim. The Tana Kama however, disagrees on two scores. According to him, what does one do with ...
1. ...the half Log of oil?
2. ... the remainder of the oil?
(c)Another Beraisa discusses a Minchah Ma'afeh Tanur that consists of Rekikin only. According to Rebbi Shimon ben Yehudah, one follows the same procedure with the oil as one did in the previous case. What does the Tana Kama say?
4)
(a)The Beraisa discusses a Minchah that consists of half Chalos and half Rekikin - with reference to a Minchah Ma'afeh Tanur, and according to Rebbi Shimon, who permits half Chalos and half Rekikin.
(b)According to Rebbi Shimon ben Yehudah Amar Rebbi Shimon in a Beraisa, the Rekikin are anointed like a Greek 'Chi' (as we described in our Mishnah [see also Tosfos DH 'ke'Miyn Chi']), whilst the remainder of the oil is eaten by the Kohanim. According to Tana Kama however ...
1. ...the half Log of oil - is smeared across the entire surface of the Rekikin ...
2. ... whilst the remainder of the oil is added to the Chalos.
(c)Another Beraisa discusses a Minchah Ma'afeh Tanur that consists of Rekikin only. According to Rebbi Shimon ben Yehudah, one follows the same procedure with the oil as one did in the previous case. According to the Tana Kama however, since there are no Chalos to which to add the remainder of the oil - the Kohen simply smears the oil over the surface of the Rekikin over and over again, until it has all been used up.
5)
(a)How does our Mishnah categorize the Menachos that require Pesisah?
(b)Which two Menachos does this come to preclude, according to Rav Papa?
(c)What does the Beraisa learn from ...
1. ... the Pasuk in Vayikra (in connection with a Minchah al ha'Machavas "Pasos Osah Pitim ... Minchah Hi"?
2. ... the word "Osah" (there)?
5)
(a)Our Mishnah categorizes the Menachos that require Pesisah as - all those that are prepared in a K'li ...
(b)... to preclude - the Sh'tei ha'Lechem and the Lechem ha'Panim, as Rav Papa explains.
(c)The Beraisa learns from ...
1. ... the Pasuk in Vayikra (in connection with a Minchah al ha'Machavas "Pasos Osah Pitim ... Minchah Hi" - that all Menachos (i.e. the Minchah al ha'Machavas, and the Minchah Ma'afeh Tanur) require Pesisah.
2. ... "Osah" - that the Sh'tei ha'Lechem and the Lechem ha'Panim are exempt from Pesisah.
6)
(a)What does the Beraisa learn from "Veyatzakta alehah Shemen ... Minchah Hi" (in the same Pasuk)?
(b)This time, the Tana precludes a Minchah Ma'afeh Tanur from Yetzikah from "alehah". What does he then learn from the word "Hi"?
(c)What reason does Rabah give for precluding the Minchah Ma'afeh Tanur from Yetzikah, and not the Minchas Kohanim?
(d)Why does the Tana then not also preclude the Minchah Ma'afeh Tanur from P'sisah (from "Osah"), rather than the Sh'tei ha'Lechem and the Lechem ha'Panim?
6)
(a)The Beraisa learns from "Veyatzakta alehah Shemen ... Minchah Hi" (in the same Pasuk) - that Yetzikah extends to all Menachos (as we just explained).
(b)This time, the Tana precludes a Minchah Ma'afeh Tanur from Yetzikah from "alehah". And he then learns from the word "Hi" - that both the Chalos and the Rekikin are precluded from Yetzikah (one from each Limud).
(c)And the reason that the Tana precludes the Minchah Ma'afeh Tanur from Yetzikah, and not the Minchas Kohanim, Rabah explains is - because that is the only Korban that requires two Pesukim (one for the Chalos, and one for the Rekikin). It is not clear however, why, based on the principle 'Hei Minaihu Mafkas' one Pasuk will not suffice to preclude both.
(d)And the reason that the Tana does not also preclude the Minchah Ma'afeh Tanur from P'sisah (from "Osah"), rather than the Sh'tei ha'Lechem and the Lechem ha'Panim is - because we will later include the Minchah Ma'afeh Tanure in the Din of P'sisin (despite the fact that it is not prepared in a K'li, as we learned on the previous Amud).
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7)
(a)How does the Tana Kama of our Mishnah describe the P'sisah?
(b)What distinction does he draw between the Minchah of a Yisrael and the Minchah of ...
1. ... a Kohen?
2. ... the Kohen ha'Mashi'ach?
(c)Rebbi Shimon disagrees on two scores. What does he say about ...
1. ... a Minchas Kohen and Minchas Kohen Mashi'ach?
2. ... the size of the pieces?
(d)How else might we explain 've'Chulan Pos'san k'Zeisim'?
7)
(a)The Tana Kama of our Mishnah describing the P'sisah, states - that one folds the loaf into two and the two into four?
(b)The Minchah of a Yisrael, he rules, must then actually be divided, but not the Minchah of ...
1. ... a Kohen (since it does not need Kemitzah).
2. ... the Kohen ha'Mashi'ach - which does not even require folding.
(c)Rebbi Shimon disagrees on two scores. He ...
1... exempts even a Minchas Kohen from P'sisah, since it does not require Kemitzah.
2. ... requires the pieces to be folded and broken into pieces the size of a 'k'Zayis (see also Tif'eres Yisrael).
(d)He might also explain 've'Chulan Pos'san k'Zeisim' to mean - that each the ten Chalos made out of the Isaron of flour must comprise at least a k'Zayis.
8)
(a)What does the Beraisa learn from the Pasuk ...
1. ... "Pasos"?
2. ... "Pitim"?
3. ... "Osah"?
(b)How does Rabah reconcile the Beraisa, which prescribes P'sisah for the Minchas Kohen Mashi'ach with our Mishnah, which exempts it?
8)
(a)The Beraisa learns from the Pasuk ...
1. ... "Pasos" - that the Minchah must be divided into two.
2. ... "Pitim" - that the two must be divided again into four.
3. ... "Osah" - that its pieces should not be folded and broken into more than four pieces.
(b)Rabah reconciles the Beraisa, which prescribes P'sisah for the Minchas Kohen Mashi'ach with our Mishnah, which exempts it - by obligating the Kohen to fold it twice, but not four times (like the other Menachos).
9)
(a)What distinction does Rav Yosef draw between a Chavita (a cooked dish containing pieces of bread) to explain when one recites 'ha'Motzi' and when one recites 'Borei Miynei Mezonos'?
(b)And he proves this from a Beraisa (based on Rebbi Shimon in our Mishnah), which obligates a Kohen who is bringing a Minchah to recite two B'rachos. He will recite 'Shehechiyanu' if he is bringing a Minchah for the first time. Why might he do so even if he has brought one before?
(c)Which B'rachah does the Tana obligate him to recite when he then picks it up to eat?
(d)How does Rav Yosef now prove his point from Rebbi Shimon in our Mishnah, who requires pieces of a 'k'Zayis'?
9)
(a)According to Rav Yosef, if the pieces of bread that are cooked in the Chavita (a dish containing pieces of bread) are larger than a 'k'Zayis' - one recites 'ha'Motzi', but if they are smaller than that - then one recites 'Borei Miynei Mezonos'.
(b)He proves this from a Beraisa (based on Rebbi Shimon in our Mishnah), which obligates a Kohen who is bringing a Minchah to recite two B'rachos. He will recite 'Shehechiyanu', either because he is bringing a Minchah for the first time - or because he brought the Minchas ha'Omer from the new crops for the first time that year.
(c)When he then picks it up to eat, the Tana obligate him to recite - 'ha'Motzi'.
(d)Rav Yosef now proves his point from Rebbi Shimon in our Mishnah, who requires pieces of a 'k'Zayis' - from which one can extrapolate that on pieces of less than a k'Zayis, one recites 'Mezonos', and not 'ha'Motzi'.
10)
(a)Abaye queries Rav Yosef from Tana de'bei Rebbi Yishmael. What does Tana de'bei Rebbi Yishmael say in a Beraisa about the pieces of Minchah?
(b)What does Abaye now ask on Rav Yosef from there?
(c)And he tries to prove conclusively that the B'rachah of 'ha'Motzi' is applicable to pieces of even less that a k'Zayis, from a Beraisa. What does the Tana there say about someone who on Pesach, collected and ate crumbs of ...
1. ... Chametz?
2. ... Matzah?
(d)We refute Abaye's proof however, by establishing the case there 'be'she'Irsan'. What does this mean?
10)
(a)Abaye queries Rav Yosef from Tana de'bei Rebbi Yishmael, who rules in a Beraisa - that one grinds the pieces back into flour before performing the Kemitzah.
(b)Abaye now asks on Rav Yosef from there - whether according to Tana de'bei Rebbi Yishmael, the Kohanim will not recite 'ha'Motzi' either?
(c)And he tries to prove conclusively that the B'rachah of 'ha'Motzi' is applicable to pieces of even less that a k'Zayis, from a Beraisa, which rules that if someone on Pesach, collects and eats crumbs of ...
1. ... Chametz - is Chayav Kareis.
2. ... Matzah - he has fulfilled the Mitzvah of eating Matzah (even though, in both cases, the crumbs are smaller than a 'k'Zayis').
(d)We refute Abaye's proof however, by establishing the case there 'be'she'Irsan', meaning - when he then rolled them back into one piece.
11)
(a)We reject this explanation, however, from a second Beraisa. What time limit does the Tana there give for the eating to be effective (in the first Beraisa)?
(b)What is now the problem with the words in the Beraisa 've'Hu she'Achlan ... '?
(c)So how do we explain the Beraisa (to refute Abaye's Kashya) even assuming that he ate crumbs of less than a k'Zayis?
(d)Rav Sheishes concludes however, that one recites 'ha'Motzi' even on crumbs of less than a k'Zayis (not like Rav Yosef). What condition does Rava add to that?
11)
(a)We reject this explanation, however, from a second Beraisa, which sets the time limit (in the first Beraisa) - as a k'Zayis in the time it takes to eat a P'ras (half a loaf of eight k'Zeisim) for the eating to be effective.
(b)The problem with the words in the Beraisa 've'Hu she'Achlan ... ' is - that if, as we just suggested, the person who ate the crumbs rolled them into onepiece, then the Beraisa ought to have said 've'Hu she'Achlah' (in the singular).
(c)So we explain the Beraisa (to refute Abaye's Kashya) even assuming that he ate crumbs of less than a k'Zayis - where part of the loaf from which the crumbs came is still intact, rendering the crumbs 'Chashuv' (but otherwise, the B'rachah will be 'Mezonos', like Rav Yosef explained).
(d)Rav Sheishes concludes however, that one recites 'ha'Motzi' even on crumbs of less than a k'Zayis (not like Rav Yosef). Rava adds the condition - that the crumbs still retain the formation of bread (but not if they have become completely soggy, or ground into flour).