Just like Kinuy Nezirus are like Nezirus, Kinuy [Nezirus] Shimshon are like [Nezirus] Shimshon.

Question: What are Kinuyei Shimshon?

Answer (R. Avinah): Shimshuch, Shimshur, and Shimshutz.

Question: Who taught [in our Mishnah] 'if his hair became too long [he may lighten it]...'?

Answer: It is Rebbi.

(R. Yirmeyah citing R. Imi): Rebbi holds that a Nazir Olam shaves once in 12 months. (We explained this like SEFER NIR.)

Chachamim (other Amora'im, hold that Rebbi holds that) sometimes he shaves once in 30 days, and sometimes he shaves once in 12 months.

Support (for Chachamim - R. Heila citing Rav Asi - Beraisa): If one said 'I am a Nazir like the hair on my head', 'like the earth of the ground', or 'like the sand of the sea', he is a Nazir Olam, and shaves once every 30 days;

Rebbi says, he does not shave every 30 days, rather, once in 12 months. Who shaves once in 30 days? It is one who says 'are Alai Neziros like the hair on my head', 'like the earth of the ground', or 'like the sand of the sea.'

NOTE: This Beraisa is essentially Mishnah 4 below, just the Mishnah does not say 'rather, once in 12 months.'

(R. Zeira): [Rebbi and the first Tana] argue Stam.

Question: What is the case?

If he said 'like the full [amount] of my hair', all agree that he shaves after 12 months (he refers to a long Nezirus)!

If he said 'like the number of hairs on my head', all agree that he shaves once in 30 days!

Answer: Rather, the case is, he said 'like the hair.' Rebbi says that [he means] 'the full [amount] of my hair', and Rabanan say that he is like one who says 'like the number of hairs on my head.' (We explained this like RIDVAZ.)

Support: Also the following [shows that Chachamim agree that a Stam Nazir Olam shaves once in 12 months];

(Beraisa): R. Yehudah added, [if he said 'I am a Nazir] like the number of piles of figs [gathered to dry them], or like the sheaves of Shemitah (left on the ground), he is a Nazir Olam, and he shaves once in 30 days [because this is like a count. If every Nazir Olam shaves once in 30 days, what does R. Yehudah add?!]

Rebuttal: Who says that R. Yehudah holds like Rabanan? [Perhaps] according to Rebbi, R. Yehudah adds [that in this case, he shaves once in 30 days]!

(Beraisa): Avshalom was a Nazir Olam, and he shaved once in 12 months. (It seems that in R. MEIR SIMCHAH's text, Rebbi taught this Beraisa.)

What is the reason [why Rebbi says here, he shaves once in 30 days]? It is because [he said that he accepts] 'Nezirus' [like the number...]

Question: What is the source that according to Rabanan, [a Nazir Olam] shaves once in 30 days?

Answer: It is the following Mishnah: 'I am a Nazir this house-full', or 'this box-full', we check him (ask him what he meant):

It was taught about this, he shaves once in 30 days. [Rebbi] holds that he shaves once in 12 months! (Rather, this shows that Rabanan argue with Rebbi; R. Ze'ira is refuted. We explained this Sugya based on R. MEIR SIMCHAH.)

Question: If he counted six months and became Tamei - does he count another six months [and shave], or does he return and count 12 months [before shaving]?

Question: If he finished his Nezirus, and before he shaved, two or three days passed and he became Tamei [does this destroy his count, and he must count Nezirus again]?

Objection (R. Mani): Since he was not Mekadesh his hair with blood [of Korbanos], what permits him to shave?!

Question: 'I am a Nazir after 30 days Nazir Olam, and a Nazir already (from now)' - since he is able to shave [on day 30, before Nezirus Olam begins], he is a Nazir [now] - or, since if he will become Tamei, he has no place (time) to cancel [his count and count a new 30 days], he is not a Nazir?

Question: 'I am a Nazir after 30 days, and a Nazir Shimshon already (now, what is the law)?

Answer (R. Chinena): Presumably, [Nezirus Shimshon takes effect immediately, and after 30 days] Nezirus Torah (all the Isurim apply to it) overrides Nezirus Shimshon (which does not forbid Tum'ah. He can even shave after 30 days of Torah Nezirus, since he accepted it before he said that he accepts Nezirus Shimshon. We explained this like R. MEIR SIMCHAH.)

What is the source? "Ken Ya'aseh Al Toras Nizro" - this excludes Nezirus Shimshon, which is not Torah Nezirus.