1)
(a)The Tana of our Mishnah states 'Konam Peiros ha'Eilu Alai ... ', Asur b'Chilufeihen uv'Giduleihen'. This would not be the case if he said 'Konam Te'enim va'Anavim Alai'. Why the difference?
1)
(a)The Tana of our Mishnah states 'Konam Peiros ha'Eilu Alai ... ', Asur b'Chilufeihen uv'Giduleihen'. This would not be the case if he said 'Konam Te'enim va'Anavim Alai' - because there, since he did not specify any particular fruits, he merely means to prohibit that species on himself; whereas in our Mishnah, where he specifies certain fruits, he means to give them a Din Hekdesh (whose Chilufin and Gidulin are forbidden).
2)
(a)In Perek ha'Shutfin, Rami bar Chama asked whether, if someone declared 'Konam Peiros ha'Eilu al Peloni', the exchange of the fruit will be forbidden too. What are the two sides of the She'eilah?
(b)Bearing in mind that Rami bar Chama did not ask whether 'Eilu' is Dafka or not, what problem does this create with regard to our Mishnah?
(c)We conclude that in fact, 'Eilu' is Dafka. What does the Tana of our Mishnah teach us with the word 'Eilu' that we do not already know from the principle 'Chilufin k'Gidulin'?
(d)Then how will we explain Rami bar Chama's She'eilah?
2)
(a)In Perek ha'Shutfin, Rami bar Chama asked whether, if someone declared 'Konam Peiros ha'Eilu al Peloni', the exchange of the fruit will be forbidden too. The two sides of the She'eilah are - whether the Tana of our Mishnah forbids the Chilufin and the Gidulin because he goes after the Noder's intentions, in which case it is only the Noder who will be forbidden to benefit from them, or whether it is because 'Chilufin k'Gidulin', which will be forbidden in spite of the Noder's intentions.
(b)Bearing in mind that Rami bar Chama did not ask whether 'Eilu' is Dafka or not, this creates a problem with regard to our Mishnah - because, since, according to the second side of the She'eilah 'Eilu' is Lav Dafka (seeing as Chilufin is Asur by all Isurei Hana'ah), according to the first side of the She'eilah too, it must be Lav Dafka ... a Kashya from our Mishnah, which holds that Eilu is Dafka!
(c)We conclude that in fact, 'Eilu' is Dafka, and the Tana of our Mishnah teaches us with the word 'Eilu' - that the exchange is forbidden to the Noder even if someone else made the exchange (something that we would not have known from 'Chilufin k'Gidulin').
(d)Rami bar Chama's She'eilah - acknowledges that 'Eilu' is Dafka (in which case if someone else were to exchange the forbidden fruit, it could be forbidden on the Noder, but not on the Mudar). What he is asking is whether the Tana mentions 'Eilu' specifically in this case, where it is someone else who exchanged the fruit, but that when the Noder himself made the exchange, maybe we will not need 'Eilu', and the exchange will be forbidden even on the Mudar because of the principle 'Chiufeihen k'Giduleihen', or whether he requires 'Eilu' even when the Noder himself made the exchange.
3)
(a)The Tana continues 'she'Eini Ochel, she'Eini To'em, Mutar b'Chilufeihen uv'Giduleihen'. Seeing as this Lashon implies an inclusion, on what grounds does it exclude Chilufin and Gidulin?
(b)The inference from the above prohibition regarding the Gidulin is confined to something whose seeds decompose. What Halachah can we infer from there, which would differ with regard to something whose seeds do not?
(c)On what basis does the Tana ...
1. ... forbid the Gidulin of something whose seeds decompose (despite the fact that nothing remains of the original Isur)?
2. ... permit the Gidulei Gidulin of something whose seeds decompose?
(d)In that case, why does he forbid Gidulei Gidulin by something whose seeds do not decompose?
3)
(a)The Tana continues 'she'Eini Ochel, she'Eini To'em, Mutar b'Chilufeihen uve'Giduleihen'. Despite the fact that this Lashon implies an inclusion, we nevertheless exclude Chilufin and Gidulin - because, on the other hand, when he eats or tastes the Chalipin, he has not eaten or tasted the fruit that he forbade.
(b)The inference from the above prohibition regarding the Gidulin is confined to something whose seeds decompose. We can infer from there - that the Gidulei Gidulin are permitted, which would not be the case with regard to something whose seeds do not decompose.
(c)The Tana ...
1. ... forbids the Gidulin of something whose seeds decompose (despite the fact that nothing remains of the original Isur) - because it is no different than Chalipei Isurei Hana'ah, which are forbidden.
2. ... permit the Gidulei Gidulin of something whose seeds decompose - because Chalipei Chalipin of Isurei Hana'ah are also permitted.
(d)The Tana nevertheless forbids Gidulei Gidulin by something whose seeds do not decompose - because seeing as a small amount of the Isur remains intact, we will apply the principle 'Davar she'Yesh Lo Matirin Asur'. Consequently, even though what grows is the majority, the small part that remains does not become Batel.
4)
(a)The Tana then repeats the same Halachah with regard to someone who says to his wife 'Konam Ma'asei Yedei Ishti Alai ... '. Why does he find it necessary to do this?
(b)This is not a case of forbidding something that is non-existent (seeing as the work of her hands are not yet in the world), because it might speak when the husband declared a Konam on his wife's hands vis-a-vis the work that she will produce. How else might we explain it?
(c)What does Rabeinu Yonah comment on this Halachah, in a case where the wife then ground wheat, baked bread and sold it?
4)
(a)The Tana then repeats the same Halachah with regard to someone who says to his wife 'Konam Ma'asei Yedei Ishti Alai ... '. He finds it necessary to do this - to teach us that, even though he did not say 'Eilu', having specified his wife's products it is as if he had actually said it (otherwise the Chilufin would not be forbidden, as we explained earlier).
(b)This is not a case of forbidding something that is non-existent (seeing as the work of her hands are not yet in the world), because it might speak when the husband declared a Konam on his wife's hands vis-a-vis the work that she will produce - or it might speak when he specifically forbade the products of his wife's hands after they come into the world.
(c)Rabeinu Yonah comments on this Halachah - that if, in a case where the wife then ground wheat, baked bread and sold it, it is only the value of his wife's work that is forbidden, but not the original value of his wheat, which should be deducted from the total, and from which he may derive benefit.
5)
(a)If a man says to his wife 'she'At Osah Eini Ochel ad ha'Pesach', he is permitted to benefit after Pesach, from whatever she produces; whereas if he says 'she'At Osah ad ha'Pesach Eini Ochel', he is not. What is the Chidush? Why is this not obvious?
(b)What will be the Din if a husband says to his wife 'she'At Nehenis Li ad ha'Pesach Im Holeches At l'Veis Avich ad ha'Chag' if she went to her father's house ...
1. ... before Pesach?
2. ... after Pesach?
(c)And what will be the Din if the husband says to his wife 'she'At Nehenis Li ad ha'Chag Im Holeches At l'Veis Avich ad ha'Pesach' if she went to her father's house ...
1. ... before Pesach?
2. ... after Pesach?
5)
(a)If a man says to his wife 'she'At Osah Eini Ochel ad ha'Pesach', he is permitted to benefit after Pesach, from whatever she produces; whereas if he says 'she'At Osah ad ha'Pesach Eini Ochel', he is not. The Chidush lies in the first statement - which comes to teach us that we do not suspect that 'ad ha'Pesach' really pertains to 'she'At Osah', and that he is therefore forbidden to benefit from whatever she produces until Pesach, forever (like the Din in the second statement). The reason for this is because then, he should have used the wording of the second statement.
(b)If a husband says to his wife 'she'At Nehenis Li ad ha'Pesach Im Holeches At l'Veis Avich ad ha'Chag' if she went to her father's house ...
1. ... before Pesach - she is forbidden to benefit from him until Pesach.
2. ... after Pesach - she will have transgressed 'Bal Yachel' retroactively.
(c)And if the husband says to his wife 'she'At Nehenis Li ad ha'Chag Im Holeches At l'Veis Avich ad ha'Pesach' if she went to her father's house ...
1. ... before Pesach - she is forbidden to benefit from him until Sukos.
2. ... after Pesach - she is permitted to benefit from him.
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6)
(a)The Beraisa cites the She'eilah of Yishmael Ish Kfar Yama (or d'Yama). What did he once bring with him to the Beis ha'Medrash?
(b)He asked whether the majority that grew b'Heter negated the part that grew b'Isur or not. What was the basis of his She'eilah?
(c)How else could he have presented it?
(d)Is there any significance in the fact that he asked it the way he did?
6)
(a)The Beraisa cites the She'eilah of Yishmael Ish Kfar Yama (or d'Yama), who once brought with him to the Beis ha'Medrash - an onion which he uprooted in the Shemitah year and replanted in the eighth, and the part that subsequently grew was in excess of the part that grew in the Shemitah.
(b)He asked whether the majority that grew b'Heter negated the part that grew b'Isur or not. The She'eilah was based - on the fact that the main part of the onion (which was Asur) remained intact.
(c)He could have asked - whether the part that grew b'Heter was Asur too, or not.
(d)There is no significance in the fact that he asked the She'eilah the way he did - because if what grew b'Heter is Mevatel the original onion, then it is obvious that it itself is permitted, whereas if it does not, it is obvious that it is not (as we shall see later in the Sugya).
7)
(a)Initially, Rebbi Ami did not know the answer. Rebbi Yitzchak Nafcha though, resolved the She'eilah from a statement quoted from Rebbi Yanai. What did Rebbi Yanai say about an onion of Terumah that one planted in a case when, what subsequently grew was in excess of the original onion?
(b)What did he mean when he said 'Mutar'? Did that mean that the onion was Chulin?
(c)On what grounds did Rebbi Yirmeyahu (or Rebbi Zerika) object to Rebbi Yitzchak Nafcha's proof?
7)
(a)Initially, Rebbi Ami did not know the answer. Rebbi Yitzchak Nafcha though, resolved the She'eilah from a statement quoted from Rebbi Yanai, who said that if one planted an onion of Terumah in a case when what subsequently grew was in excess of the original onion - what grew b'Heter is Mevatel the original Isur.
(b)When he said Mutar, he did not mean that the entire onion became Chulin, but - that it was Tevel, in which case one was permitted to eat from the fruit Arai (casually).
(c)Rebbi Yirmeyahu (or Rebbi Zerika) objected to Rebbi Yitzchak Nafcha's proof - on the grounds that he accepted the ruling of one person (Rebbi Yanai), when there are two (Rebbi Yochanan and Rebbi Yonasan) who forbade it.
8)
(a)If one cut down a young tree (of less than three years) and grafted it into an old tree ...
1. ... which had no fruit currently growing on it, what does the Gemara in Sotah say with regard to it?
2. ... which had fruit growing on it, what does Rebbi Avahu Amar Rebbi Yochanan say about it?
(b)What does Rebbi Shmuel bar Nachmani Amar Rebbi Yonasan say with regard to an onion that one planted in a vineyard after the vineyard has been uprooted?
8)
(a)If one cut down a young tree (less than three years old - which is Orlah) and grafted it into an old tree ...
1. ... which had no fruit currently growing on it, the Gemara in Sotah says - that it is Batel.
2. ... which had fruit growing on it, Rebbi Avahu Amar Rebbi Yochanan says - that the fruit is forbidden even if it increased by two hundred fold.
(b)Rebbi Shmuel bar Nachmani Amar Rebbi Yonasan says - that if one planted an onion in a vineyard and then uprooted the vineyard, the onion remains Asur, even assuming that what grew later was sufficient to be Mevatel what previously grew b'Isur.
9)
(a)When Yishmael Ish Kfar Yama's She'eilah came back to Rebbi Ami, he resolved it from a statement by Rebbi Yitzchak Amar Rebbi Yochanan. What did he say about a 'Litra' of onions that had already been Ma'asered and that one re-sowed? What does Rebbi Ami prove from there?
(b)Why does Rebbi Yitzchak speak about sowing the onions rather than about planting them?
(c)How can Rebbi Yitzchak quote Rebbi Yochanan as saying that the growth is Mevatel the Ikar, when earlier, regarding the Din of Orlah, Rebbi Avahu quoted him as saying that it does not?
(d)On what grounds do we reject Rebbi Ami's proof from Rebbi Yitzchak Amar Rebbi Yochanan?
9)
(a)When Yishmael Ish Kfar Yama's She'eilah came back to Rebbi Ami, he resolved it from a statement by Rav Yitzchak Amar Rebbi Yochanan - who said that if one replanted a 'Litra' of onions that had already been Ma'asered, one is obligated to Ma'aser the entire batch of onions (and not just what grew later), proving that what grows is Mevatel the Ikar (like Rebbi Yitzchak Nafcha).
(b)Rebbi Yitzchak speaks about sowing the onions ('v'Zar'ah') rather than of planting them (v'Nat'ah') - because he is speaking about planting a number of onions, and when one plants a number of seeds or fruits it is called sowing.
(c)Rebbi Yitzchak, who quotes Rebbi Yochanan as saying that the growth is Mevatel the Ikar - argues with Rebbi Avahu who quoted him earlier (regarding the Din of Orlah) as saying that it is not.
(d)We reject Rebbi Ami's proof from Rebbi Yitzchak Amar Rebbi Yochanan - on the grounds that in all likelihood, Rebbi Yochanan holds that the growth is not Mevatel the Ikar (like Rebbi Avahu), but that here he holds that it is, l'Chumra.
10)
(a)At first, this appears to be a Chumra that will end up being a Kula. What would be the problem if one then separated Ma'aser ...
1. ... from the onions themselves?
2. ... from an external source?
(b)Why, in fact, is this not a Kashya?
10)
(a)At first, this appears to be a Chumra that will end up being a Kula. The problem, should one separate Ma'aser ...
1. ... from the onions themselves, would be - that, assuming that what grew is Chayav Ma'asros (min ha'Torah), he will be separating from what is Chayav (min ha'Torah) on what is Patur.
2. ... from an external source is - that he will giving more than a tenth for Ma'aser, which is forbidden.
(b)In fact, this is not really a Kashya - because it is wrong to assume that the growth is Chayav Ma'asros (min ha'Torah). As a matter of fact, since the growth is not Mevatel the Ikar, it becomes like it, seeing as it grew from it. Consequently, neither of the two is Chayav Ma'asros min ha'Torah.