(a)What was Rava's reaction to Rav Huna b'rei de'Rav Nachman's arrival in Mechuza? What did he instruct his Shamash Rav Elyakim, to do?
(b)When Rav Huna b'rei de'Rav Nachman nevertheless managed to gain access, he asked Rava what he held in the case of a Nochri who stirred wine, though not as an act of worship (the case over which they had previously argued), what did he reply?
(c)And what did he reply when Rav Huna b'rei de'Rav Nachman queried him from his original ruling?
(d)Why did he say that?
1)
(a)When Rav Huna b'rei de'Rav Nachman's arrived in Mechuza, Rava reacted - by instructing his Shamash Rav Elyakim, to lock the door, so that nobody should disturb him (see Rashash).
(b)When Rav Huna b'rei de'Rav Nachman nevertheless managed to gain access, he asked Rava what he held in the case of a Nochri who stirred wine, though not as an act of worship (the case over which they had previously argued), he replied - 'Asur Afilu be'Hana'ah'.
(c)And when Rav Huna b'rei de'Rav Nachman queried him from his original ruling (that it is Mutar be'Hana'ah) - he replied that he had not meant to include the value of the bucketful that the Nochri had shaken, which required 'Holachas Hana'ah le'Yam ha'Melach'.
(d)He said that - because he was embarrassed at having ruled so leniently to begin with.
2)
(a)In fact, Rava was forced to retract from his original ruling. Who forced him to retract?
(b)How did Rava respond initially when Abaye quoted him Shmuel in Neherda'a and Rebbi Yochanan in Teverya, who forbade the wine be'Hana'ah?
(c)And how did Abaye counter Rava's argument?
2)
(a)In fact - Abaye had forced Rava to retract from his original ruling.
(b)When Abaye quoted him Shmuel in Neherda'a and Rebbi Yochanan in Teverya, who forbade the wine be'Hana'ah, Rava initially responded - by suggesting that this was only because the people in Neherda'a and Teverya were not b'nei Torah ...
(c)... which Abaye countered - by asking Rava whether the residents of Mechuza were any more b'nei Torah than those of Neherda'a and Teverya.
3)
(a)Abaye also queried Rava from a Beraisa, where the Tana discusses the case of a Nochri Agard'mim who pierced a hole in a barrel of wine with his straw and tasted the wine. What is an 'Agard'mim'?
(b)What is the second case cited by the Tana?
(c)What does the Beraisa rule in both cases?
(d)How did Rava try to refute Abaye's proof from there? How did he attempt to explain 've'Asruhu' to conform to his original ruling?
3)
(a)Abaye also queried Rava from a Beraisa, where the Tana discusses the case of a Nochri Agard'mim - a wine-inspector, who pierced a hole in a barrel of wine with his straw and tasted the wine, or who ...
(b)... tasted a cup of wine before pouring the remains back into the bottle.
(c)The Beraisa rules that - the wine is Asur.
(d)Rava tried to refute Abaye's proof from the Beraisa - by interpreting 've'Asruhu' to mean Asur to drink, but Mutar be'Hana'ah (conforming to his original ruling).
4)
(a)Abaye proved him wrong however, from the Seifa. What does the Seifa say about a case where a Nochri Charam (a trouble-maker, who would act first, and think later) placed his hand into a barrel of wine, thinking that it contained oil?
(b)Why were they more lenient in this case than in the Reisha?
(c)How does this finally prove Rava wrong?
4)
(a)Abaye proved him wrong however, from the Seifa, which rules that, in a case where a Nochri Charam (a trouble-maker, who would act first, and think later) placed his hand into a barrel of wine, thinking that it contained oil - 'Yimacher'.
(b)They were more lenient in this case than in the Reisha - because here, the Charam did not even know that the barrel contained wine when he touched it.
(c)This finally proves Rava wrong - because if, as Rava maintained, the Reisha too, only meant to forbid drinking the wine, but allowed it be'Hana'ah, then the Tana ought to have said 'Yimacher' (like it does in the Seifa), and not 'Asruhu'.
5)
(a)What happened once when Rebbi Yochanan ben Arza and Rebbi Yossi ben Nahara'i asked a passer-by to pour them out a drink of wine?
(b)Two men, two opinions! What were the two opinions?
(c)How did Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi justify the one who ...
1. ... forbade the wine even be'Hana'ah?
2. ... even permitted drinking it?
5)
(a)When Rebbi Yochanan ben Arza and Rebbi Yossi ben Nahara'i once asked a passer-by to pour them out a drink of wine - they subsequently discovered, much to their dismay, that he was a Nochri.
(b)Two men, two opinions! One held - that the wine was Asur even be'Hana'ah; the other, that it was permitted, even to drink.
(c)Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi justified the one who ...
1. ... forbade the wine even be'Hana'ah - because the Nochri would figure that such important men would not be drinking beer, but wine. In that case, he would be only too happy to make the wine Nesech.
2. ... even permitted drinking it - because the Nochri would figure that two Rabbis would not dream of asking a Nochri to pour them out wine, so it must have been beer that they were drinking.
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6)
(a)How come that the Nochri did not ...
1. ... see that the liquid was wine and not beer?
2. ... smell that it was wine?
(b)We ask why, when the Nochri scooped wine with a jug from the barrel, to pour it into the cups, he did not render the wine Asur because of Maga she'Lo be'Kavanah, which we have already learned, is Asur. Why would that apply here, seeing as he did not actually touch the wine?
(c)What do we answer? How did he transfer the wine from the barrel into the cups in a way that did not pose a Kashya on the one who permitted it?
(d)Then why did the other opinion forbid it?
6)
(a)The Nochri could not ...
1. ... see that the liquid was wine and not beer - because the episode took place at night-time.
2. ... smell that it was wine - because it was fresh wine, that has a weak smell.
(b)We ask why, when the Nochri scooped wine with a jug from the barrel, to pour it into the cups, he did not render the wine Asur because of Maga she'Lo be'Kavanah, which we have already learned, is Asur. This is because even though he did not actually touch the wine - transferring it via a jug is akin to touching it with one's hands (since the jug is considered an extension of one's hand).
(c)We answer that he transferred the wine from the barrel into the cups - by tipping the barrel and pouring it, and Chazal's decree on a Nochri touching wine even without intending to be Menasech does not extend to pouring it in such a way.
(d)The other opinion nevertheless forbade it - because he suspected that perhaps the Nochri touched the wine, without their having noticed.
7)
(a)Rebbi Asi asked Rebbi Yochanan 'Yayin she'Mascho Mahu'. How did Rebbi Yochanan amend his She'eilah? What ought Rebbi Asi to have asked?
(b)What did Rebbi Yochanan counter when Rebbi Asi explained that the Lashon he had used was based on the Pasuk in Mishlei "Tavchah Tavchah, Maschah Yeinah"?
(c)On what basis did Rebbi Yochanan forbid drinking it?
(d)Then why did he not also forbid it be'Hana'ah?
7)
(a)When Rebbi Asi asked Rebbi Yochanan 'Yayin she'Mascho Mahu?', the latter amended his She'eilah to - 'Yayin she'Mazgah Mahu?' (meaning whether wine into which a Nochri poured water to dilute it becomes forbidden or not).
(b)When Rebbi Asi explained that the Lashon he had used was based on the Pasuk "Tavchah Tavchah Maschah Yeinah", Rebbi Yochanan countered - 'Lashon Torah le'Atzmah, ve'Lashon Chachamim le'Atzmah' (the terminology used by the Chachamim overrides that used by the Torah, and that that is the language that a Talmid-Chacham ought to use).
(c)Rebbi Yochanan forbade drinking it - on the basis of the principle 'Lech Lech Amrin li'Nezira S'chor S'chor, le'Karma Lo Sikrav' (We tell a Nazir to rather go round a vineyard than go through it, in order to avoid being tempted to sin').
(d)He did not however, forbid it be'Hana'ah - because it is not worse than touching without Kavanah, which we learned above is Mutar be'Hana'ah (such as the case of the Nochri descending the palm-tree and touching wine with the palm-branch).
8)
(a)What was Rebbi Yochanan's reaction when he arrived in Savta and saw that they were drinking wine which had been diluted by Nochrim?
(b)What did Rebbi Yirmiyah rule when exactly the same thing happened to him?
8)
(a)When Rebbi Yochanan arrived in Savta and saw that they were drinking wine which had been diluted by Nochrim - he immediately forbade them to continue doing so, because of 'Lech Lech Amrin li'Nezira ... '.
(b)When exactly the same thing happened to Rebbi Yirmiyah, he ruled - like Rebbi Yochanan.
9)
(a)What did Resh Lakish rule when he arrived in Batzrah and saw the people ...
1. ... eating fruit without Ma'asering it?
2. ... drinking river water to which Nochrim had prostrated themselves?
(b)What did Rebbi Yochanan instruct Resh Lakish to do when the latter informed him of what he had done?
(c)What was Resh Lakish's mistake in ...
1. ... obligating the fruit of Batzrah to be Ma'asered?
2. ... declaring Asur the river water to which Nochrim had prostrated themselves?
9)
(a)When Resh Lakish arrived in Batzrah and saw the people ...
1. ... eating fruit without Ma'asering it - he forbade them to continue doing so.
2. ... drinking river water to which Nochrim had prostrated themselves - he forbade it.
(b)When Resh Lakish informed Rebbi Yochanan of what he had done - he (R. Yochanan) instructed him to return immediately (before he had even removed his coat) and repair his mistake.
(c)Resh Lakish's mistake in ...
1. ... obligating the fruit of Batzrah to be Ma'asered was that - he mistook 'Batzrah' (which belonged to Edom) for Betzer (which was indeed a Jewish city [of refuge] in Eiver ha'Yarden [see Tosfos DH 'Betzer').
2. ... declaring Asur the river water to which Nochrim had prostrated themselves was that - the water was public property, and Rebbi has already cited Rebbi Shimon ben Yehotzadak, who specifically rules that public expanses of water cannot become Asur in this way.
