CHULIN 29 (18 Teves) - Two weeks of study material have been dedicated by Mrs. Estanne Fawer to honor the Yahrzeit of her father, Rav Mordechai ben Eliezer Zvi (Rabbi Morton Weiner) Z'L, who passed away on 18 Teves 5760. May the merit of supporting and advancing Dafyomi study -- which was so important to him -- during the weeks of his Yahrzeit serve as an Iluy for his Neshamah.

1)

(a)We already quoted the Beraisa 'Shachat Chatzi Gargeres Ve'shahah bah K'dei Shechitah Acheres Ve'gamrah, Shechitaso Kesheirah'. What Kashya does this Beraisa pose on Rav?

(b)We refute the Kashya by establishing the Beraisa by a bird. What do we gain by doing that? How does it answer the Kashya?

(c)We also quoted the Beraisa 'Harei she'Hayah Chatzi Kanah Pagum, Ve'hosif alav Kol Sh'hu ve'Gamro, Shechitaso Kesheirah'. Rava refutes the Kashya from here on Rav (according to whom, the animal ought to be a T'reifah, like we just asked on the previous Beraisa) by differentiating between Shechitah and T'reifus. In what way is T'reifus different than Shechitah?

2)

(a)What objection does Abaye raise to Rava's distinction? Why, if anything, is there more reason to require a discernible Rov by Shechitah than by T'reifus?

(b)What do we therefore conclude with regard to Mechtzah al Mechtzah by Shechitah?

(c)In fact, Rav and Rav Kahana are arguing over Mechtzah al Mechtzah by the Korban Pesach. Which area of Korban Pesach, other than the Shechitah, requires a Rov?

3)

(a)What are then the ramifications of the Machlokes. What is the meaning of Mechtzah al Mechtzah ...

1. ... ke'Rov?

2. ... Eino ke'Rov?

(b)How does Rav learn Mechtzah al Mechtzah ke'Rov from "Ish Ish" (in the Pasuk in Beha'aloscha "Ish Ish ki Yih'yeh Tamei la'Nefesh")?

4)

(a)How does Rav Hoshaya explain the Tana's need to repeat 'Rov Echad be'Of ve'Rov Shenayim bi'Veheimah', in spite of having already taught 'Rubo shel Echad Kamohu'?

(b)Having taught the Din of Rov by ...

1. ... Chulin, why does the Tana find it necessary to repeat it by Kodshim?

2. ... Kodshim, why does he need to repeat it by Chulin?

(c)How does Rav Kahana extrapolate from the Lashon 'ha'Shochet Echad be'Of ... ' that the Reisha must be speaking by Chulin (and the Seifa by Kodshim, and not vice-versa)?

(d)How do we refute the counter proof from the Lashon in the Seifa 'Rov Echad be'Of u'Shenayim bi'Veheimah, Shechitaso Kesheirah'? Why is there no proof from there that the Seifa is speaking about Chulin?

5)

(a)How does Rav Shimi bar Ashi prove from 'Rov Echad be'Of' in the Reisha, that it must be referring to Chulin?

(b)And how do we then interpret 'Rov Echad be'Of' in the Seifa, to refute the counter proof from there that, by the same token, it must be talking about Chulin, because otherwise there is Olas ha'Of that requires two Simanim?

(c)Then why did the Tana not say 'Rov Shenayim'?

(d)How does Rav Papa prove from the Machlokes between Rebbi Yehudah and the Rabbanan regarding the Varidin, that the Reisha must be speaking about Chulin?

6)

(a)How does Rav Ashi prove from the next Mishnah ('ha'Shochet Sh'nei Roshin ke'Echad, Shechitaso Kesheirah') that the Seifa must be referring to Kodshim?

(b)The basis for this is a Beraisa cited by Rav Yosef. What does the Tana learn from ...

1. ... "Tizbach" (in the Pasuk in Kedoshim "li'Retzonchem *Tizbach*uhu"?

2. ... Tizbachu*hu*")?

(c)How does Rav Kahana explain the Tana's first ruling?

7)

(a)Resh Lakish too, deals with the repetition of 'Rov Si'man' in our Mishnah, to which end he cites the Mishnah in Yoma. With reference to the Kohen Gadol on Yom Kipur, what does the Tana there mean when he states 'Hevi'o lo es ha'Tamid, Kartzo, u'Meirak Acher Shechitaso al-Yado'?

(b)How does Resh Lakish connect this with our Mishnah 'Rov Echad be'Of, Rov Shenayim bi'Veheimah'?

(c)What does this prove?

8)

(a)The Beraisa we just cited, initially suggests that if nobody else completes the Shechitah, then it is Pasul. If that is the case, what will be the problem with somebody else completing it? What did we learn in a Beraisa about the Avodos on Yom Kipur?

(b)We answer that 'Yachol Yehei Pasul', in this instance, means Pasul mi'de'Rabbanan. What Kashya does this pose on the Beraisa 'u'Meirak Acher Shechitaso al-Yado'?

(c)What do we answer?

(d)On what grounds do we reject the suggestion that the Mitzvah is that of be'Rov Am Hadras Melech (the more people involved in the Avodah, the more the King is honored)?

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9)

(a)According to Resh Lakish in the name of Levi Saba, it is not called Shechitah until the Shechitah is complete. What does Rebbi Yochanan say?

(b)On what grounds does Rava explain that even Resh Lakish will concede that if ...

1. ... a Nochri Shechts one Si'man and a Yisrael, the other, the Shechitah is Pasul?

2. ... a Kohen performs Melikah on one Si'man of an Olas ha'Of below the Chut ha'Sikra and the other, above, it is Pasul?

(c)According to Rava, what are the ramifications of the Machlokes?

10)

(a)According to Rabah bar Shimi quoting Rav Yosef, Resh Lakish will agree that in this latter case too, the Shochet is Chayav. Why is that?

(b)He agrees however, that the Machlokes concerns Shechutei Chutz. Over which case are they then arguing?

11)

(a)The Beraisa issues two rulings with regard to all those who deal with the burning and sprinkling of the Parah Adumah from beginning to end. One, that they render the clothes that they are wearing Tamei. What is the other?

(b)Who, besides the one who Shechts it, burns it, and throws the cedar wood, the hyssop and the crimson thread into the burning cow, does this incorporate?

(c)The Tana rules that if a P'sul occurs in the Shechitah, the clothes of those preparing it do not become Tamei, even those that dealt with it before the P'sul occurred. What does he say about a P'sul that occurs during the seven Haza'os towards the Ohel Mo'ed?

(d)What does Rava say to explain why, according to Rebbi Yochanan, the Tana does not draw the same distinction by the Shechitah as he does by the Haza'ah?

12)

(a)Rava has a problem with the current Beraisa, which discusses a Parah that becomes Pasul in the course of its preparation. What does he ask, according to Resh Lakish ('Einah li'Shechitah Ela be'Sof'), from a case where two people Shecht it consecutively?

(b)What advantage does this case have over the case that the Tana actually presents?

(c)How does Rav Yosef try to answer Rava's Kashya, based on the Beraisa that we cited on the previous Amud. What did the Tana there learn from the word "Tizbach(uhu)"?

13)

(a)Abaye counters that this Beraisa is the opinion of Rebbi Elazar b'Rebbi Shimon S'timta'ah, but the Chachamim disagree. What does S'timta'ah mean?

(b)Rava's Kashya therefore remains unanswered, according to the Chachamim. How will the problem with Rebbi Yochanan remain even according to Rebbi Elazar b'Rebbi Shimon? What distinction might the Tana have drawn (regarding Tum'as Begadim) even where only one Kohen Shechted the Parah Adumah?

(c)We conclude that the Tana is only concerned with the *P'sul* of the Parah, but not with its *Hechsher*. What do we mean by that?

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