STANDING BY TO SUPERVISE (Yerushalmi Ma'asros Perek 2 Halachah 1 Daf 8a)
øáé éåñé áùí øáé ùùú øáé ìòæø áé øáé éåñé áùí øáé àáéï äàåîø ìçáéøå àðé îòùø òì éãê àéðå öøéê ìòîåã òîå.
(R. Yosi citing R. Sheshes/ R. Elazar bei R. Rosi citing R. Avin): If one said to his friend, "I will separate Maaser for you'', he doesn't need to stand and watch that he tithes properly.
úîï úðéðï ðúðå áàéìï ìîòìä îòùøä èôçéí àéðå òéøåá ìîèä îòùøä èôçéí äøé æä òéøåá.
(Mishnah in Eiruvin): If he deposited (his Eiruv) on a tree - if above 10 Tefachim, it's not an Eiruv; below 10 Tefachim, it is an Eiruv. (And earlier, the Mishnah there taught - If one sent his Eiruv with a deaf-mute, a lunatic or a minor, it's not a (valid) Eiruv.)
[ãó éã òîåã à (òåæ åäãø)] àîø øáé ìòæø åöøéê ìòîåã òîå.
(R. Elazar): (The sender) must stand with him (and see that the recipient gets it).
åäëà àú àîø äëéï.
Question: So why here doesn't he need to watch him?
àîø øáé çééä áø àãà ëàï áâãåì ëàï á÷èï.
Answer (R. Chiya bar Ada): Here is discussing an adult; there is discussing a minor.
øáé çððéä áùí øáé çðéðà àôéìå úéîø ëàï åëàï áâãåì ëàï åëàï á÷èï úîï áàåîø ìå (àðé îòøá òì éãê)[òøá òì éãé] áøí äëà áàåîø ìå (òùø òì éãé)[àðé îòùø òì éãê].
(R. Chananya citing R. Chanina): You can even say that both are discussing an adult or both are discussing a minor - there (Eiruvin) the sender requested it (so it's not certain that it will be done); here (Maaser), the messenger volunteered to do it.
(äãà éìôà îï ääéà)[åääéà éìôà îï äãà] áàåîø ìå àðé îòøá òì éãê ùàéðå öøéê ìòîåã òîå å(ääéà éìôà îï äãà)[äãà éìôà îï ääéà] áàåîø ìå òùø òì éãé ùäåà öøéê ìòîåã òîå.
Eiruvin can be learned from Maaser - if the messenger volunteered, he does not need to watch him. Maaser can be learned from Eiruvin - if the sender requested it, he must watch the messenger.
öà åì÷è ìê òùøéí úàðéí îùìé àåëì åäåìê åäåà ôèåø öà åîìà àú äëìëìä øáé àåîø àåîø àðé ùäåà öøéê ìäøàåú ìå àú äëìëìä.
"Go and pick for yourself twenty of my figs'' - he may eat and is exempt. If he said, "Go and fill the basket'', Rebbi says that he must show the size of the basket to the owner (to avoid possible theft).
åëîä äåà ùéòåø äëìëìä
Question: What is the assumed size of the basket?
øáé ùîåàì áø ðçîï áùí øáé éåðúï ñúí ëìëìä [ãó ç òîåã á] àøáòú ÷áéï åâãåìä ñàä å÷èðä ùìåùú ÷áéï.
Answer (R. Shmuel bar Nachman citing R. Yonasan): A standard basket holds four Kav; a large one holds a Seah and a small one holds three Kav.
ø' éåðä áòé ìîòùøåú àéúàîøú àå ìîãú äãéï. àéï úéîø ìîòùøåú àéúàîøú ëì ùëï ìîéãú äãéï àéï úéîø ìîéãú äãéï àéúàîøú äà ìîòùøåú ìà.
Question (R. Yona): (The Mishnah taught earlier (Chulin 127(d)) that produce usually put in a basket is considered complete after it's covered. And if it isn't being covered, after he fills the vessel.) Were these sizes given by R. Yonasan specifically related to the basket of that Mishnah or were they to business law, (that a buyer may not fill a basket larger than the type that was agreed upon)...? If you say it was for Ma'asros, certainly it would apply to business law. If you say that it was for business law, perhaps it would not apply to Ma'asros (and even if a small basket was filled it would be considered complete).
øáé éåñé ôùéèà ìéä ìîòùøåú àéúàîøú ëì ùëï ìîéãú äãéï.
According to R. Yosi, it was obvious that it was said about Ma'asros and it would certainly apply to business law.
[ãó è òîåã à] [ãó éã òîåã á (òåæ åäãø)] äãà àîøä ùáéúå èåáì ìå àáì ìà ìàçøéí.
(The Mishnah taught (Chulin 132(b)) that if they were sitting in a doorway or a store and he said to them, "Take for yourselves figs'', they may eat them without tithing but the doorway and store owners are obligated.) This shows that his house obligates him but not others.
àîø øáé ìòæø øáé éåãä åøáé ðçîéä ùðéäí àîøå ãáø àçã ãúðéðï úîï øáé ðçîéä àåîø ëì ùàéï àãí áåù îìåëì áúåëä çééáú.
(R. Elazar): R. Yehuda and R. Nechemia have the same opinion - as the Mishnah (further on, in Perek 3 Mishnah 5) taught - (What type of courtyard obligates Maaser?) R. Nechemia says - If a person would not be embarrassed there, it obligates. (This is also the reasoning of R. Yehuda, who said in our Mishnah (see earlier, Chulin 132(b) 1.) that he is exempt, unless he turns his face or changes his seat.)
àîø øáé éåñé äåéðï ñáøéï îéîø îä ôìéâéï øáé ðçîéä åøáðéï áçöø ùäåà áåù ìåëì áëåìä äà î÷öúä áåù åî÷öúä ìà áåù ìà.
(R. Yosi): We thought that the dispute between R. Nechemia and Rabbanan is over a courtyard into which he is embarrassed to eat in all of it, but if he is embarrassed to eat only in part of it, not; (as R. Nechemia agrees that it obligates).
îï îä ãàîø øáé ìòæø øáé éäåãà åøáé ðçîéä ùðéäí àîøå ãáø àçã äãà àîøä î÷åí ùäåà áåù ôèåø î÷åí ùàéðå áåù çééá.
But R. Elazar's teaching that R. Yehuda and R. Nechemia have the same opinion shows that an area in which he is embarrassed exempts and an area in which he is not embarrassed obligates.
àîø øáé éåçðï ãáøé øáé éäåãä òùå àåúå ëééçåø ùäåà ðåèä ìçöø.
(R. Yochanan): (Disagreeing with R. Elazar) (That's the not R. Yehuda's reasoning; rather) it's because he views it like a branch of a fig tree that is leaning into the courtyard (that one who eats from it outside the courtyard is exempt and one who eats from it inside the courtyard is obligated).
òì ãòúéä ãøáé éåçðï áàåëì àçú àçú åáàåëì áøùåú äëì åáîùééø.
According to R. Yochanan, he is only exempt if he eats them one at a time and he eats the fruits from the shared basket and leaves over for others.
òì ãòúéä ãøáé ìòæø àôéìå àéðå àåëì àçú àçú àôéìå àéðå àåëì áøùåú äëì åìà ùééø:
According to R. Elazar, even if he does not eat them one at a time and even if he doesn't eat from the shared basket and even if he doesn't leave over for others.