12th CYCLE DEDICATION

KERISUS 27 (23 Nisan) - dedicated by Mr. Avy Reichman of Queens, NY, l'Iluy Nishmas his father, Dovid ben Avraham, for the day of his Yahrzeit.

1)

(a)What is Rav Menashya bar Gada referring to when he asks whether one can be Miskaper be'Kinus Chomshin or not?

(b)We connect this with the She'eilah of whether or not Adam Miskaper bi'Shevach Hekdesh. What does Adam Miskaper bi'Shevach Hekdesh mean? To what do we initially ascribe the improvement?

(c)Assuming that ...

1. ... Adam Miskaper bi'Shevach Hekdesh, why might we nevertheless hold Ein Miskaper be'Kinus Chomshin?

2. ... Ein Adam Miskaper bi'Shevach Hekdesh, why might we nevertheless hold Miskaper be'Kinus Chomshin?

2)

(a)How do we try to resolve the She'eilah regarding Sh'vach Hekdesh from the Reisha of our Mishnah 'ha'Mafrish Sh'nei Sela'im le'Asham, ve'Lakach bahem Sh'nei Eilim le'Asham, Hayah Echad meihem Yafeh Sh'tei Sela'im, Yikarev la'Ashamo'?

(b)How do we refute this proof? How else might we explain the price discrepancy?

(c)How do we then refute the proof from ...

1. ... the Beraisa, which permits someone who purchases a ram for one Sela, and fattens it until it is worth two, to bring it as an Asham?

2. ... the Seifa of the Beraisa, which validates an Asham that one purchased for a Sela, and that is now worth two?

(d)How do we establish the Reisha and the Seifa, in order to differentiate between them?

3)

(a)If, as we just established the Seifa, the owner already paid seven Zuzim, why does the Tana obligate him to pay another Sela?

(b)To resolve the discrepancy between the Reisha and the Seifa, why do we not simply establish the Seifa where the shepherd sold it to him for less than the market price?

(c)How do we finally prove from there that Adam Miskaper bi'Shevach Hekdesh?

(d)Then why does the Tana require him to pay the extra Zuz?

4)

(a)We ask Mai Havi alah? But did we not just prove conclusively that Adam Miskaper bi'Shevach Hekdesh?

(b)And we resolve the She'eilah from a Beraisa. What does the Beraisa say?

(c)What was Rebbi Yochanan's reaction when Rebbi Elazar asked whether Adam Miskaper bi'Shevach Hekdesh or not (and later, when he asked whether Ba'alei Chayim Nidachim [livestock can be permanently rejected], or not)?

(d)Rebbi Yochanan referred to the current Halachah in connection with a Mishnah in Menachos. What does the Tana there say with regard to the V'lad or the Temurah of a Todah, or the replacement of a Todah which got lost?

5)

(a)How does Rebbi Chanina in the name of Rebbi Yochanan qualify the Mishnah in Menachos? In which case will the above require loaves?

(b)What does this prove?

(c)How does the She'eilah whether Ba'alei Chayim Nidachim or not affect the two goats on Yom Kipur?

(d)Why can we not prove from the Din Chatas she'Kipru Ba'alehah, Meisah that Ba'alei Chayim Nidachim?

6)

(a)What does Rebbi Yochanan say about a partner who declares his half of a shared animal Hekdesh, before buying out his partner before declaring the other half Hekdesh too?

(b)What level of Kedushah takes effect on the animal, when the partner declares his original half Hekdesh?

(c)Which of Rebbi Elazar's She'eilos can we resolve from Rebbi Yochanan's ruling?

(d)What do we further extrapolate from Rebbi Yochanan's ruling concerning ...

1. ... Dichuy Me'ikara (initial Dichuy as opposed to Nir'eh ve'Nidcheh [where it became Nidcheh only after being initially fit] which is certainly Nidcheh)?

2. ... Dichuy be'Damim (where the Dichuy was caused by the Damim, even though the Guf remains completely eligible)?

(e)What is the difference between Yesh Dichuy be'Damim and Kedushas Damim Madcheh?

7)

(a)Rebbi Elazar also asked what the Din will be if lambs become cheap, until they cost less than two Sela'im. What are the two sides of the She'eilah? How is this connected with the two Pesukim "Mivchar Nidreichem" (Re'ei) and "Kesef Shekalim" (Vayikra)?

(b)How do we initially cite Rebbi Yochanan's response to Rebbi Elazar's She'eilah?

(c)We reject this statement however, based on another statement of Rebbi Yochanan in the name of Rebbi Shimon bar Yochai. What did he say to explain why the Torah does not give a minimum value to the animals of Mechusrei Kaparah? Who are the Mechusrei Kaparah?

(d)We also refute the second suggested version of Rebbi Yochanan's response to Rebbi Elazar's She'eilah (that he never taught this Halachah) on account of Rebbi Chiya bar Aba. What did Rebbi Chiya bar used to do every thirty days? What does this prove (See Rabeinu Gershom)?

(e)So how do we finally cite Rebbi Yochanan's real response to Rebbi Elazar's She'eilah?

8)

(a)We query Rebbi Yochanan in the name of Rebbi Shimon bar Yochai (whom we just cited with regard to why the Torah did not give a fixed price for the Mechusrei Kaparah). How does ...

1. ... Abaye query this from Chatas Cheilev?

2. ... Rava query it from Asham Nazir? What is unique about Asham Nazir?

(b)What do we comment on the Kashyos of Abaye and Rava?

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9)

(a)What does our Mishnah say about someone who designated his Chatas and died?

(b)Is the son permitted to bring it on behalf of his deceased father?

(c)And what does our Mishnah learn from the Pasuk in Vayikra "Korbano al Chataso"?

(d)How about bringing the Chatas that one designated for Cheilev that he ate yesterday, to atone for the Cheilev that he ate today?

10)

(a)How many times does the Torah write the word "Korbano" with regard to Chatas?

(b)From where does the Beraisa learn that one is not Yotzei by bringing the Korban that one's father designated for his small sin to atone for one's own ...

1. ... big sin, or vice-versa? What does the Tana mean by small and big?

2. ... small sin (and likewise if they are both big sins)?

(c)Why might we have thought that, in spite of these rulings, a son can nevertheless be Yotzei with the money that his father designated for his Korban (even for a small sin on his big one, or vice-versa)? On which Halachah of Nezirus is this suggestion based?

(d)How do we qualify this Halachah of Nezirus? Under which circumstances will the concession not apply?

(e)From where do we then know that he cannot in fact do so?

11)

(a)Until now, we have discussed a son being Yotzei with the Korban or the money designated by his deceased father. We already learned in our Mishnah from "Korbano" that the same applies to switching a designated animal even from Cheilev to Cheilev. We initially confine this to changing the designated animal from one sin to another, because 'she'Kein Lo Ma'al ve'Lo Kipar'. How did Rav Shmuel bar Shimi explain this in front of Rav Papa?

(b)On that basis, why do we think that one is permitted to change the money that one designated even from a small sin to a big one, or vice-versa?

(c)From where do we know that he may not in fact, do so?

12)

(a)What does our Mishnah say about switching for a goat, the money that one designated for a lamb, or vice-versa?

(b)And what is the Tana referring to when he speaks about switching the money for ...

1. ... a sheep or a goat, for pigeons or young doves, or the money for pigeons or young doves, for flour? What happens to the balance?

2. ... flour for a pigeon or a young dove, or the money for a pigeon or a young dove for a sheep or a goat?

(c)What do we learn from the Pasuk in Vayikra, written (in connection with Korban Oleh ve'Yored) ...

1. ... by Korban Beheimah, "me'Chataso"?

2. ... by Korban Of, "me'Chataso"?

3. ... by Korban Minchah, "Al Chataso"?

(d)Regarding a Korban Oleh ve'Yored, what does the Beraisa say in a case where one's designated ...

1. ... Beheimah obtained a Mum, assuming that the owner had since become poor?

2. ... a bird obtained a Mum, assuming that the owner had since become very poor?

(e)What must he then do in the latter case?

13)

(a)Having written "me'Chataso" by Beheimah, why does the Pasuk see fit to repeat it by Of? Why can we not learn the latter from the former?

(b)If not for this Pasuk, then with what would the sinner fulfill his obligation?

(c)And what would then happen to the money that he designated for the Korban Of?

(d)Why does the Torah write "Al Chataso" specifically by the Minchah and not by the Korban Of?

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