1)
(a)Rava asked what the Din will be (still in connection with the Ikar and the Tosefes) regarding Ma'aser. What is the case?
(b)What second She'eilah did he ask, assuming that we go after the Tosefes (with regard to having to Ma'aser it).
(c)What was Abaye referring to when he asked Rava why this should be any different than a regular case of wheat and barley?
(d)What did Rava reply? What makes wheat and barley different?
1)
(a)Rava asked what the Din will be (still in connection with the Ikar and the Tosefes) regarding Ma'aser. Whether, if one Ma'asers one's crops and then replants them - one is obligated to Ma'aser the Tosefes (that subsequently grows).
(b)Assuming that we go after the Tosefes, he asked - whether one is also obligated to Ma'aser the Ikar again.
(c)When Abaye asked Rava why this should be any different than a regular case of wheat and barley, he was referring to - every case of replanted wheat and barley, which it is the accepted practice to Ma'aser.
(d)To which Rava replied that wheat and barley are different - because the seeds rot and die before they begin to grow again (Davar she'Zar'o Kalah), and it is obvious that what subsequently grows is like new corn; whereas his She'eilah was confined to the species of seeds that do not rot before re-growing (Davar she'Ein Zar'o Kalah).
2)
(a)We try to resolve the She'eilah from a statement by Rebbi Yitzchak. What did Rebbi Yitzchak Amar Rebbi Yochanan say regarding a Litra of onions that one has already Ma'asered and that one then replants?
(b)What is the status of onions regarding Zar'o Kalah?
(c)Why did the Tana find it necessary to insert the word Litra?
(d)Why can we not then resolve Rava's She'eilah from there?
2)
(a)We try to resolve the She'eilah from a statement by Rebbi Yitzchak Amar Rebbi Yochanan, who ruled that a Litra of onions that one has already Ma'asered and that one then replants - must be Ma'asered again when they grow larger (even the original onions which were already Ma'asered) ...
(b)... and onions is a species which is - Ein Zar'o Kalah.
(c)The Tana found it necessary to insert the word Litra to teach us that - the obligation to Ma'aser the entire onion applies even to where they know how much of the onion was Ma'asered already.
(d)We cannot then resolve Rava's She'eilah from there - because that is the way that one cultivates onions (by replanting them), whereas his She'eilah pertains specifically to species that once grown, are normally eaten (and not re-planted).
3)
(a)What is the Din regarding Ma'asering crops that grow in a plant-pot that has no hole in it?
(b)What did Abaye retort when Rebbi Chanina bar Minyumi asked him about Ma'asering from one plant-pot without a hole on another plant-pot without a hole?
3)
(a)One is Chayav mi'de'Rabbanan to take Ma'aser from crops that grow in a plant-pot that has no hole in it . Note that in Rava's case (where the original crops were already Ma'asered), if one is Patur, one is Patur even mi'de'Rabbanan.
(b)When Rebbi Chanina bar Minyumi asked Abaye about Ma'asering from one plant-pot without a hole on to another plant-pot without a hole, he replied that - since both pots have no hole, both are only Chayav mi'de'Rabbanan, and there is no reason why one should not take Ma'aser from one on to the other.
4)
(a)So Abaye amended the She'eilah. What is the case, according to him?
(b)Bearing in mind that the Ikar is Patur and the Tosefes, Chayav, what is now the She'eilah?
(c)Seeing as Rava already asked the She'eilah above, why did we find it necessary to repeat it?
4)
(a)So Abaye amended the She'eilah. The case, according to him, is - that of a plant-pot without a hole in which crops have grown to the stage of a third before it produces a hole after which they subsequently ripen.
(b)Bearing in mind that the Ikar is Patur and the Tosefes, Chayav, the She'eilah is - whether the owner is forbidden to Ma'aser from the Ikar (which is Patur) on to what grew afterwards (which is Chayav), because we do not go after the Ikar at all, and the Tosefes remains Chayav (min ha'Torah) whilst the Ikar is Patur (like the first side of Rava's second She'eilah), or whether we go after the Ikar le'Chumra (like the second side of the She'eilah [though this is unclear, because Rava was talking about Ma'asering the Ikar independently, not on the Tosefes]), and he may do so.
(c)Despite the fact that Rava already asked the basic She'eilah above, we find it necessary to repeat it - because whereas Rava was speaking about planting the crops a second time, we are now speaking about the crops continuing to grow after the initial planting. Perhaps even if in Rava's case, the Tosefes obligates the Ikar, in this case it won't.
5)
(a)Rebbi Avahu asked what the Din will be in a case where after performing Miru'ach, the owner replants the stalks, and then, when they grow, he Ma'asers them whilst they are still Mechubar (attached). Why might the Ma'aser ...
1. ... be valid?
2. ... not be valid?
(b)The Rabbanan object to the She'eilah on the basis of a Mishnah? What does the Tana say about Ma'asering from Mechubar?
(c)Abaye refutes their objection by confining the Mishnah to one specific area of Halachah. Which area?
(d)The Mishnah's statement is understandable in a case where one cuts the corn and eats it, since then it is no longer Mechubar. But why will the Chiyuv Miysah and Chomesh not apply there where one bends down and eats the crops whilst they are still attached?
5)
(a)Rebbi Avahu asked about a case where, after performing Miru'ach, the owner replants the stalks, and then, when they grow, he Ma'asers them whilst they are still Mechubar (attached). The Ma'aser might ...
1. ... be valid - because once they have passed the stage of Miru'ach, they adopt the status of Tevel, and are subject to Ma'aser (irrespective of whether they are subsequently detached or not)
2. ... not be valid - because since the owner subsequently planted them, they lose their status of Tevel.
(b)The Rabbanan objected to the She'eilah on the basis of a Mishnah - which states that there is no such thing as Terumah by Mechubar.
(c)Abaye refutes their objection by confining the Mishnah to one specific area of Halachah - that of the Chiyuv Miysah bi'Yedei Shamayim (for eating it be'Meizid), and paying an extra fifth (for eating it be'Shogeg).
(d)The Mishnah's statement is understandable in a case where one cuts the corn and eats it, since then it is no longer Mechubar. In fact however, the Chiyuv Miysah and Chomesh will also not apply there where one bends down and eats the crops whilst they are still attached - due to the principle Batlah Da'ato Eitzel Kol Adam (that is not the way people tend to eat, and it is therefore not considered Achilah).
6)
(a)We query this from a note in Ilfa's notebook however. What unusual Din pertains to the Neveilah of a Tahor bird?
(b)What did Ilfa write about an egg of such a bird (that is still attached to the body, and) that is still half inside the bird's stomach and half outside when it dies?
(c)What problem do we have with that from what we just said regarding eating from Mechubar crops?
(d)How do we reconcile Ilfa with the Mishnah?
6)
(a)We query this from a note in Ilfa's notebook however. The Neveilah of a Tahor bird has the unique distinction in that - it renders whoever eats it Tamei (as he swallows it, but not if he merely touches it).
(b)Ilfa wrote that if an egg of such a bird that is still half inside the bird's stomach and half outside when it dies - then the inner half is Metamei the person who eats it, whereas the outer half is not.
(c)The problem with that from what we just said regarding eating from Mechubar crops - is why we do not say there too, that it is not called Achilah, seeing as people do not usually eat in this fashion?
(d)We reconcile Ilfa with the Mishnah - by confining the Din of Batlah Da'ato ... to Mechubar, which people do not tend to eat, but there where the article is Talush (detached), people will eat it in any which way.
7)
(a)What did Rav Tivyomi bar Kisna Amar Shmuel say about someone who plants Kil'ayim in a plant-pot without a hole?
(b)Abaye raised an objection to this, based on the Mishnah in Terumah. What does the Tana there say about taking Terumah from a plant-pot without a hole on to one with a hole?
(c)What does this prove?
(d)What is then Shmuel's Chidush?
7)
(a)Rav Tivyomi bar Kisna Amar Shmuel ruled that if someone plants Kil'ayim in a plant-pot without a hole - it is Asur.
(b)Abaye objected to this, based on the Mishnah in Terumah, which rules that - if one takes Terumah from a plant-pot without a hole on to one with a hole - the Terumah is valid, though one is obligated to take Terumah again (from the pot with the hole).
(c)This proves that - what grows in a pot without a hole is Chayav Ma'asros (mi'de'Rabbanan [in which case Rav Tivyomi bar Kisna is not teaching us anything]).
(d)Shmuel's Chidush must therefore be that - whoever eats the Kil'ayim is Chayav Makas Mardus (mi'de'Rabbanan).
8)
(a)Which five types of grain does our Mishnah list that are Chayav Chalah?
(b)What does the Tana rule with regard to ...
1. ... combining them to make up the Shi'ur Chalah?
2. ... the Din Chadash?
(c)And which final Chumra does he add to the list?
(d)On what condition does the Omer permit them?
8)
(a)Our Mishnah lists five types of grain that are Chayav Chalah - wheat, barley, rye, oats and spelt.
(b)The Tana rules that ...
1. ... any two or more of them - will combine to make up the Shi'ur Chalah (though this will be qualified in the Sugya).
2. ... the Din Chadash before the Omer (see Tosfos-Yom-Tov Chalah 1:1) - applies to them (exclusively).
(c)The Tana adds - that one is forbidden to cut them before Pesach.
(d)And that the Omer permits them - provided they have taken root before the Omer is brought.
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9)
(a)The Beraisa describes spelt (Kusmin) as belonging to the family of wheat. What does the Tana say about oats (Shiboles-Shu'al) and rye (Shifon)?
(b)What are the ramifications of these rulings?
9)
(a)The Beraisa describes spelt (Kusmin) as belonging to the family of wheat and oats (Shiboles-Shu'al) and rye (Shifon) - as belonging to the barley family.
(b)The ramifications of these rulings are - that spelt can only combine with wheat, and barley, rye and oats with each other.
10)
(a)What do we learn from the Pasuk in Re'ei "Lo Sochal alav Chametz ... Shiv'as Yamim Tochal alav Matzos Lechem Oni"?
(b)And what does Resh Lakish subsequently learn from the Gezeirah-Shavah "*Lechem* Oni" "Ve'hayah be'Ochlechem *mi'Lechem* ha'Aretz" (in Yehoshua)?
(c)Which two types of grain do these Pesukim preclude from the Din of Chametz, Matzah and Chadash?
(d)Why is that?
10)
(a)We learn from the Pasuk "Lo Sochal alav Chametz ... Shiv'as Yamim Tochal alav Matzos Lechem Oni" that - only those types of grain that can become Chametz are eligible as Matzah.
(b)And Resh Lakish subsequently learns from the Gezeirah-Shavah "*Lechem* Oni" "Ve'hayah be'Ochlechem *mi'Lechem* ha'Aretz" (in Yehoshua) that - this comparison extends to Chadash as well.
(c)These Pesukim preclude - rice and millet (Orez ve'Dochen) from the Din of Chametz, Matzah and Chadash ...
(d)... because although they do smell, they do not begin to foment and never reach the stage of Chametz.
11)
(a)What does the Beraisa say about fresh produce, flour and dough (of the five species)?
(b)Rav Kahana learns this with regard to Chadash, Rav Yosef, with regard to Chametz. How does fresh wheat become subject to Chametz?
(c)Rav Papa learns it with regard to Ma'aser Sheini. What is the case?
11)
(a)The Beraisa rules that fresh produce, flour and dough (of the five species) - combine to make up the Shi'ur.
(b)Rav Kahana learns this with regard to Chadash; Rav Yosef, with regard to Chametz. Fresh wheat will become subject to Chametz - from the moment that one adds water.
(c)Rav Papa learns it with regard to Ma'aser Sheini - regarding eating it outside the walls of Yerushalayim (for which one receives Malkos).
12)
(a)Finally, Rava learns it with regard to Tum'as Ochlin. What will be the Chidush, according to him?
(b)We support this with a Beraisa. How does the Tana qualify the statement of Rava? Which kind of grain will combine to make up the Shi'ur of a k'Beitzah even if it is still in its shell?
(c)Why is that?
(d)And what does the Tana mean when he says Se'orah she'Einah Kelufah, Einah Mitztarefes?
12)
(a)Finally, Rava learns it with regard to Tum'as Ochlin - which comes to teach us that just as dough is edible as it is, so too, must the grains and the flour be edible just as they are (without the husks [of the grains] and the bran [of the flour]).
(b)We support this with a Beraisa - which restricts Rava's statement to barley shells (but not to those of wheat, which will combine even if they are still in their shells ...
(c)... because the shell of wheat is thin and soft, and therefore edible.
(d)When the Tana says Se'orah she'Einah Kelufah, Einah Mitztarefes, he means that - as long as the barley shell has not been removed, even the kernel inside it will not combine with other food, since the shell interrupts between them.
13)
(a)What does Tana de'bei Rebbi Yishmael learn from the Pasuk in Shemini "al Kol Zera Zeru'a asher Yizare'a"? What does he say about wheat, barley and lentils?
(b)How do we reconcile what we just learned about barley with Tana de'bei Rebbi Yishmael?
(c)What is the reason for that?
(d)What is the problem with ascribing this Halachah to the fact that the peel of wet barley is soft and is therefore considered a food in its own right?
13)
(a)Tana de'bei Rebbi Yishmael learns from the Pasuk in Shemini "al Kol Zera Zeru'a asher Yizare'a" - that even wheat, barley and lentils in their shells (just as one plants them) will combine with other foods to make up the Shi'ur.
(b)We reconcile what we just learned about barley with Tana de'bei Rebbi Yishmael - by establishing the former to where crops have already gone dry, and the latter, to when they are still fresh ...
(c)... because as long as they are still fresh, the shells remain attached to the grains, and serve as a protection (a Shomer, which is considered as part of the fruit [whereas once they become dry, they soon fall off, thereby losing their status of Shomer]).
(d)The problem with ascribing this Halachah to the fact that the peel of wet barley is soft and is therefore considered a food in its own right is that - if we do, how will we establish the principle that a Shomer has the same Din as the fruit.
14)
(a)Earlier we cited Resh Lakish, who learned from "Lechem" "Lechem" that the five kinds of grain are included in the Isur Chadash. What does Rebbi Yochanan learn from the Gezeirah-Shavah "Reishis" (in Emor in connection with the Omer) "*Reishis* Arisoseichem" (in Korach, in connection with Chalah)?
(b)Rebbi Yossi bar Zavda interprets our Mishnah, which forbids cutting the new corn before the Omer, as before the cutting of the Omer. What does Rebbi Yonah say?
(c)What problem does our Mishnah create for Rebbi Yossi bar Zavda? What ought the Tana to have said instead of Asurin be'Chadash Lifnei Pesach, Ve'liktzor Lifnei ha'Omer?
(d)Why is there no problem, according to Rebbi Yonah?
14)
(a)Earlier we cited Resh Lakish, who learned from "Lechem" "Lechem" that the five kinds of grain are included in the Isur of Chadash. Rebbi Yochanan learns from the Gezeirah-Shavah "Reishis" (in Emor in connection with the Omer) "*Reishis* Arisoseichem" (in Korach, in connection with Chalah) that - they are included in the Isur of cutting the corn before the Omer, too.
(b)Rebbi Yossi bar Zavda interprets our Mishnah, which forbids eating Chadash before the Omer, as before the *cutting* of the Omer. According to Rebbi Yonah, it means - before the *bringing* of the Omer.
(c)The problem our Mishnah creates for Rebbi Yossi bar Zavda is that instead of Asurin be'Chadash Lifnei ha'Omer, Ve'liktzor Lifnei Pesach, the Tana ought to have said - Asurin be'Chadash Ve'liktzor Lifnei ha'Omer' (since one is not permitted to cut the Omer on Yom-Tov).
(d)There is no problem with Rebbi Yonah - according to whom Chadash is Asur until they bring the Omer, and cutting it, until Pesach (which in fact, means the night of Motza'ei Yom-Tov, when they cut the Omer), two independent rulings).
15)
(a)How will we reconcile the text that reads Le'arvinhu ve'Lisninhu Asurin be'Chadash Ve'liktzor Lifnei ha'Pesach (implying that it becomes permitted to eat Chadash on Motza'ei Yom-Tov Rishon of Pesach), with the fact that on no account, can Chadash be permitted before the following sunrise?
(b)What serious problem remains with this text (which is actually based on the text in our Mishnah)?
(c)We therefore conclude that, as far as Chadash is concerned, Rebbi Yossi bar Zavda agrees with Rebbi Yonah that it is Asur until the bringing of the Omer. On which part of the Mishnah are they then arguing?
(d)What is then their Machlokes?
15)
(a)To reconcile the text that reads 'Le'arvinhu ve'Lisninhu Asurin be'Chadash Ve'liktzor Lifnei ha'Pesach' (implying that it becomes permitted to eat Chadash on Motza'ei Yom-Tov Rishon of Pesach), with the fact that on no account, can Chadash be permitted before the following sunrise, we will have to allow for the fact that Beis-Din sometimes delay cutting the Omer until close to dawn-break, in which case the cutting and the Heter to eat Chadash both take place only in the morning.
(b)The serious problem with this text (which is actually based on the text in our Mishnah) is that - ad ha'Pesach with reference to eating Chadash), implies that one may eat it on the first day of Pesach, even before the Omer has been cut, which is of course, incorrect.
(c)We therefore conclude that as far as Chadash is concerned, Rebbi Yossi bar Zavda agrees with Rebbi Yonah that it is Asur until the bringing of the Omer, and their Machlokes pertains to the Seifa of the Mishnah Im Hishrishu Kodem la'Omer ha'Omer Matiran ...
(d)... Rebbi Yossi bar Zavda interprets this as Kodem Ketziras ha'Omer; Rebbi Yonah as Kodem Hava'as ha'Omer.