TOSFOS DH Asur Legale'ach
úåñôåú ã"ä àñåø ìâìç
(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains that this is only before Zerikah.)
ôé' ÷åãí æøé÷ú ãîéí ùäøé îöåúå ìâìç òì äãîéí åàí âéìç òì àçã îùìùúï àîøéðï ì÷îï ãéöà.
Explanation: [He may not shave] before Zerikas Damim, for the Mitzvah is to shave after [Zerikah of] the blood [of his Korbanos]. If he shaved after one of the three, we say below (45a) that he was Yotzei.
TOSFOS DH Amar Rav Yom Shiv'im Oleh Lo l'Kan ul'Kan
úåñôåú ã"ä àîø øá éåí ùáòéí òåìä ìå ìëàï åìëàï
(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains how he saves a day through this.)
ôé' ðåìã ìå áï áéåí ò' î÷öú äéåí ù÷åãí äìéãä òåìä ìîðéï äîàä åäøé òùä ò' éåí îï äîàä
Explanation: If a son was born on day 70, the part of the day before the birth counts towards the count of 100, so he did 70 days of the 100;
åî÷öú äéåí ùàçø äìéãä òåìä ìúçéìú äðæéøåú åìà éîðä ðæéøåú áðå àìà òåã (äâäú áøëú øàù) ë"è éåí äøé áéåí ö"è ãùìå ùìîå (äâäú îìàëú éåí èåá) ì' ìáðå
The part of the day after the birth counts towards the beginning of Nezirus [for his son]. He counts for Nezirus of his son only 29 more days. On day 99 of his Nezirus, 30 days for his son are completed.
åð"î äùúà ùéåí ò' òåìä ìëàï åìëàï ùéåëì ìâìç áéåí äîàä ùäåà éåí ì"à ìáðå
Consequence: Now that day 70 counts for both, he may shave on day 100, which is day 31 for [Nezirus of] his son;
îúåê ùàåúå úâìçú òåìä ìðæéøåú áðå îï äãéï ùäåà éåí [ì"à] ìáðå òåìä ðîé àåúå úâìçú âí ìðæéøåú ãðôùéä ùäåà îàä éåí
Because it is proper that that shaving counts for Nezirus of his son, for it is day 31 regarding his son, it counts also for his own Nezirus of 100 days.
àò"ô ùàí ìà ðåìã ìå äáï ìà äéä éëåì ìâìç òì ðæéøúå àìà áéåí ÷"à äùúà ëùðåìã äáï éëåì ìâìç áéåí [÷'] ëãôøéùéú
Even though if a son was not born, he could not shave for his Nezirus until day 101, now that a son was born, he can shave on day 100, like I explained.
åà"ú åîàé ñáøà äéà ëéåï ãàí ìà ðåìã ìå áï ìà éëåì ìâìç òã éåí ÷"à ìðæéøåú (äâäú áøëú øàù) ãðôùéä äùúà ðîé ìà éâìç òã éåí ÷"à
Question: What is the reason? Since if a son was not born, he could not shave until day 101 of his own Nezirus, also now he should not shave until day 101!
åéù ìåîø ãäà [ãìà] îöé ìâìç áéåí ÷' ìà äåé àìà îãøáðï ëãôéøùðå áô"÷ (ãó å.)
Answer: The Isur to shave on day 100 is only mid'Rabanan, like I explained above (6a);
ãîãàåøééúà îöé ìâìç áéåí ÷' ãî÷öú äéåí ëëåìå àìà ãøáðï âæøå ãìà îâìç òã éåí ÷"à àèå äéëà ãàîø ùìéîéí
Mid'Oraisa, he may shave on day 100, for Miktzas ha'Yom k'Kulo. Rabanan decreed that he not shave until day 101, due to when he said [100] full days;
åäëà àå÷îéä àãéï úåøä ëùðåìã ìå áï ùéåëì ìâìç áéåí îàä ëéåï ãìðæéøåú ãáðå ÷à äåé éåí ì"à åéëåì ìâìç ìðæéøåú ãáðå áéåí [÷']
Here, they left the law like Torah law, when a son was born, that he may shave on day 100, since for his son's Nezirus it is day 31, and he may shave for his son on day 100;
äìëê âí ìðæéøåú ãðôùéä òåìä äúâìçú ùì éåí ÷'.
Therefore, also for his own Nezirus, the shaving of day 100 counts [l'Chatchilah].
TOSFOS DH Nolad ha'Ben Ad Ayen
úåñôåú ã"ä ðåìã äáï òã ò'
(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains this includes day 70.)
òã åòã áëìì.
Explanation: This is Ad v'Ad Bichlal (up to and including the limit itself).
TOSFOS DH Lo Hifsid Klum
úåñôåú ã"ä ìà äôñéã ëìåí
(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains the question against Rav.)
åàé ñ"ã òåìä ìå ìëàï åìëàï àéúâåøé îéúâø åäåé ìéä ìîéúðé áîúðéúéï äøåéç áìéãú (äâäú îäø"á øðùáåøâ) äáï
Explanation: If you will say that it counts for both, he profits. The Mishnah should have taught that he profits through the birth of the son!
ãàé ìà ðåìã ìå äáï ìà îâìç àìà òã éåí ÷"à åäùúà ìôé ãáøé øá îâìç áéåí ÷' ðîöà ùäøåéç áìéãú äáï åîàé ÷àîø ìà äôñéã.
If the son was not born, he would not shave until day 101. Now, according to Rav, he shaves on day 100. He profited through the birth of the son. Why did [the Mishnah] say "he did not lose"?
TOSFOS DH Ela b'Din Hu d'Lo Lisni Ad Ayen Lo Hifsid Klal
úåñôåú ã"ä àìà áãéï äåà ãìà ìéúðé òã ò' ìà äôñéã ëìì
(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains what the Reisha would have taught, if not for the Seifa.)
ëìåîø îï äãéï ìà äéä ìå ìùðåú áæä äìùåï ìà äôñéã àìà àãøáä ä"ì ìîéúðé äøåéç
Explanation: It would have been proper that the Mishnah not teach "he did not lose." Just the contrary, it should have taught "he profited"!
åîùåí ã÷úðé ñéôà ìàçø ùáòéí ñåúø ôé' ëé îôñéã áìéãú äáï úðé ðîé øéùà òã ùáòéí ìà äôñéã ëìåí åä"ä áøéùà àôé' (äâäú áøëú øàù) äøåéç áìéãú äáï
Because the Seifa taught "after 70, this is Soser", i.e. he loses through the birth of the son, also the Reisha taught "until 70, he did not lose at all", and it is even true that in the Reisha, he profited through the birth of the son!
åáî÷öú ñôøéí àéï ëúåá àìà, ø÷ áãéï äåà ãìà ìéúðé òã ùáòéí ãìà äôñéã (äâäú îäø"á øðùáåøâ) '.
Alternate text: Some texts do not say "Ela", just "it would have been proper that the Mishnah not teach 'until 70, he did not lose'." )Ela denotes retraction. We do not retract. We merely answer for Rav.)
TOSFOS DH Ta Shma mi'Seifa Nolad Lo Le'acher Shiv'im Soser
úåñôåú ã"ä ú"ù îñéôà ðåìã ìå ìàçø ùáòéí ñåúø
(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains the question against Rav.)
ôé' îôñéã åñáéøà ìéä ãàçø ùáòéí äåé ôé' áéåí ùáòéí åàçã åàîàé îôñéã ëìåí ìøá áìéãú äáï åäà éåí äìéãä òåìä ìëàï åìëàï
Explanation: He loses. He holds that "after 70" means day 71. Why does he lose at all, according to Rav, through the birth of the son? The day of birth counts for both!
òåìä ðîé ìúçéìú äðæéøåú ãáï ðîöà ëé ì' éåí ãáï ëìéí áéåí ÷' åéëåì äùúà ìâìç áéåí ÷"à (ëï ðøàä ìäâéä) äøé ìà äôñéã ëìåí.
It counts also for the beginning of Nezirus for his son. It turns out that 30 days for the son end on day 100, and he can shave on day 101. He did not lose at all!
TOSFOS DH Mai Acher d'Masnisin deka'Tani Soser Acher Acher
úåñôåú ã"ä îàé àçø ãîúðé' ã÷úðé ñåúø àçø àçø
(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains why this is fine for Rav if he was born on day 72.)
ôéøåù ùðåìã áéåí ò"á ãäùúà ìà éëåì ìâìç àìà áéåí ÷"á åäôñéã áìéãä.
Explanation: He was born on day 72. Now, he cannot shave until day 102, and he lost through the birth.
TOSFOS DH Aval Acher Mamash Mai
úåñôåú ã"ä àáì àçø îîù îàé
(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains that this is day 71.)
ãäééðå áéåí ò"à äëé ðîé ìà ñúø ëå' àìà ù"î àçø îîù.
Explanation: This refers to day 71. [If you will say that also then,], he is not Soser... Rather, we must say that "Acher" is literally (day 71)
TOSFOS DH v'Chen Masnisin l'Rav Shma Minah
úåñôåú ã"ä åëï îúðé' ìøá ù"î
(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains how our Mishnah is unlike Rav.)
ôé' îîúðé' éù ìäåëéç ãìà ëøá ãñáéøà ìéä ìîúðé' ãéåí äìéãä àéðå ðçùá ìðæéøåú äáï ëîå ãðçùá ìðæéøåú ãéãéä ìîàä éåí
Explanation: From our Mishnah we can prove unlike Rav, for the Mishnah holds that the day of birth does not count towards Nezirus for his son, like it counts for his Nezirus of 100 days;
ùäåà ðâøø åðçùá àçø éîéí ùòáøå ãäééðå ìðæéøåú ãéãéä
It is drawn after and considered with the days that passed, i.e. his Nezirus.
åìà ãîé ìîàé ãôøùéðï áîúðé' ãàé ðåìã äáï áéåí øàùåï ìðæéøåú ãòåìä ìùðéäí
Implied question: Why is this unlike what I explained in our Mishnah, that if a son was born on the first day of Nezirus, it counts for both of them?
ãåãàé ëéåï ùäåà úçéìú ðæéøåú ìæä ëîå ìæä ìîä éòìä ìàçã èôé îìùðé
Answer: Surely, since it is the first day of Nezirus for this, just like for this, why should it count for one more than the other?!
àáì äëà ãäåà äúçéì ìðæéøåúå ëáø æä éîéí øáéí ñáøà äåà ãéåí ìéãä éäéä ðçùá åðâøø àçø éîéí ùòáøå ãäééðå ìðæéøåú ãðôùéä
However, here he began his Nezirus many days ago. It is reasonable that the day of birth is drawn after and considered with the days that passed, i.e. his Nezirus;
åðæéøåú äáï éúçéì îéåí ùàçø äìéãä
Nezirus for his son will begin on the day after the birth.
åàí úàîø åäà úðï ì÷îï åîééúéðï ìä áô' ÷îà (ìòéì ãó å.) ãéåí ùìùéí òåìä î÷öúå ìøàùåï åî÷öúå ìðæéøåú ùðé àìîà ãéåí ì' òåìä ìëàï åìëàï
Question: A Mishnah below (16a), and we (the Gemara) brought it above (6a), teaches that part of day 30 counts for the first Nezirus, and part counts for the second Nezirus. This shows that day 30 counts for both of them!
åé"ì ãùàðé äúí ãàåúå éåí áéï ùúé ðæéøåú åøàåé ìäçùéáå úçéìúå (ìå) ìðæéøåú øàùåï åñåôå ìðæéøåú ùðé
Answer: There is different, for the day is between two Neziros, and it is proper to consider the first part of [the day] towards the first Nezirus, and the end towards the second Nezirus;
îùåí ãëéåï ãäáéà ÷øáðåúéå à"ë ðâîø ðæéøúå ãéï äåà ùéúçéì ðæéøåú äùðé îéã îéãé ãäåä àî÷áì ðæéøåú áçöé äéåí ãàåúå éåí òöîå òåìä ìîðéï ðæéøåú
Since he brought his Korbanos, he finished his [first] Nezirus. It is proper that the second Nezirus begin immediately, just like one who accepts Nezirus in the middle of the day. That day itself counts towards the count of Nezirus;
àáì äëà ãéåí ìéãä ãäééðå ò"à òåîã áàîöò ðæéøåú ãéãéä åáäúçìú ðæéøåú ãáøéä
However, here, the day of birth, i.e. [day] 71, is in the middle of his Nezirus, and the beginning of his son's Nezirus;
øàåé ìäçùéáå ëåìå ìðæéøåú ãéãéä àçø éîéí ùòáøå îùåí ãâí äåà îçùáåï ÷' éåí
It is proper to consider it totally for his Nezirus, following the days that passed, for also it is towards the count of 100 days;
åëéåï ùàåúå éåí ò"à ðçùá àçø ÷' ùåá àéï ìîðåúå ùéäéä çùåá ëùðéí ìäéåú ðçùá ðæéøåú àçø (äâäú áøëú øàù) ìëê àéðå òåìä ìáðå ìúðà ãîúðé'.
Since day 71 is counted towards the 100, now we should not consider it like two [days], to be counted [also] for another Nezirus. Therefore, it does not count for [the Nezirus of] his son according to the Tana of our Mishnah.
TOSFOS DH v'Rav k'Man Amrah
úåñôåú ã"ä åøá ëîàï àîøä
(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains why we ask like which Tana Rav holds.)
ëéåï ãúðà ãîúðéúéï ìà ñáø ìä ëååúéä.
Explanation: [We ask] because the Tana of our Mishnah holds unlike him.
TOSFOS DH Ileima k'Aba Sha'ul v'Chulei Batlah Heimenu Gezeiras Shiv'ah
úåñôåú ã"ä àéìéîà ëàáà ùàåì ëå' áèìä äéîðå âæøú ùáòä
(SUMMARY: Tosfos discusses Isurim of Avelus that festivals permit.)
úåøú (äâäú îäø"á øðùáåøâ) æ' ùéäéä àñåø áðòéìú ñðãì åáúùîéù äîèä
Explanation: The law of Shiv'ah (the first seven days of mourning) is Batel, i.e. the Isur to wear shoes and have relations.
åîéäå ìàå äéìëúà äëé ãáî"÷ (ãó ë.) äëé îñ÷éðï àôé' ùòä àçú ÷åãí ìøâì áèìä äéîðå [âæéøú] ùáòä
Pesak: The Halachah does not follow this. In Mo'ed Katan (20a) we conclude that even [if the relative died] a moment before the festival, the decree of Shiv'ah is Batel.
[ùîåðä] éîéí ÷åãí ìøâì áèìä äéîðå âæéøú ùìùéí ìòðéï úñôåøú äåàéì åîúçéì éåí àçã îãéï ùìùéí ÷åãí ìøâì
[If he died] eight days before the Regel, the decree of Sheloshim (the first 30 days of mourning) is Batel, i.e. regarding laundering, since he began one day of Sheloshim (i.e. after Shiv'ah) before the Regel;
åîåúø ìñôø òøá äøâì îùåí ëáåã äøâì
He is permitted to cut his hair Erev Yom Tov, for honor of the festival;
åàé ìà ñéôø òøá äøâì àñåø ìñôø àçø äøâì ãìà ðéúï ìãçåú àìà îôðé ëáåã äøâì åäåàéì åìà çéì÷ ëáåã ìøâì ìà éåòéì ìå äøâì ìäôñé÷ åéùìéí àçø äøâì.
If he did not cut his hair Erev Yom Tov, he may not cut it after the Regel, for it was permitted to override [the Isur of cutting hair] only for honor of the Regel. Since he did not show honor to the Regel, the Regel does not help for him to terminate [the laws of Sheloshim], and he completes [Sheloshim] after the Regel.
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TOSFOS DH Aba Sha'ul Omer Afilu Lo Siper Erev ha'Regel...
úåñôåú ã"ä àáà ùàåì àåîø àôéìå ìà ñéôø òøá äøâì...
(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains the two ways that Aba Sha'ul argues with the first Tana.)
ôìéâ àú"÷ ãñáø ãøâì îáèì áëì [òðéï]
Explanation: He argues with the first Tana, who holds that the Regel is Mevatel in any case [even if he did not cut his hair Erev ha'Regel]
åôìéâ áàçøéúé ùëùí ùîöåú [â'] îáèìú âæéøú æ' ëê îöåú æ' îáèìú âæéøú ì' åôìéâ àú"÷ ãîöøéê ç'
He argues [also] about another matter. Just like the Mitzvah of three (if one conducted three days of Shivah before the Regel) is Mevatel Gezeiras Shavah, so the Mitzvah of Shivah is Mevatel Gezeiras Sheloshim. He argues with the first Tana, who requires eight days.
TOSFOS DH Aba Sha'ul Omer (part 2)
úåñôåú ã"ä àáà ùàåì àåîø (çì÷ á)
(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains the suggestion that Rav holds like Aba Sha'ul.)
ìàå îùåí ã÷ñáø éåí æ' òåìä ìå
Citation of Gemara: Isn't this because [Aba Sha'ul] holds that day seven counts towards for him?
ìîðéï ùáòä åî÷öúå òåìä ìîðéï ì' àò"ô ùòåîã áàîöò àáéìåú,
Explanation: [It counts] towards the count of seven days, and part of it counts towards the count of 30, even though he is in the middle of Avelus.
TOSFOS DH Aba Sha'ul Omer (part 3)
úåñôåú ã"ä àáà ùàåì àåîø (çì÷ â)
(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains the rejection.)
àìà áàáéìåú ãøáðï.
Citation of Gemara: [He said so] only regarding Avelus mid'Rabanan.
ãîï äúåøä àéðå àáì àìà éåí øàùåï ëãëúéá åàçøéúä ëéåí îø
Explanation: Mid'Oraisa, he is an Avel only on the first day, like it says "v'Acharisa k'Yom Mar";
àáì áðæéøåú ãàåøééúà ããøùéðï î÷øà ãáòéðï ì' éåí ìà àîøé' ãî÷öú éåí òåìä ìå ìëàï åìëàï.
However, regarding Nezirus mid'Oraisa, since we expound from a verse to require 30 days, we do not say that part of a day counts for both.
TOSFOS DH she'Shachtu v'Zarku Aleha ba'Sheni
úåñôåú ã"ä ùùçèå åæø÷å òìéä áùðé
(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains the case.)
ùçì áòøá ôñç åùçèå òìéä äôñç åàç"ë øàúä äøé æå àéðä àåëìú áìéìä áôñç ìôé [ùäéà] ðèîàä
Explanation: [The day after she saw Dam Zivah] was Erev Pesach. [She immersed, and] they slaughtered Pesach for her, and afterwards she saw [blood]. She may not eat from the Pesach at night, for she is Tamei;
åôèåøä îìòùåú ôñç ùðé ãáùòú ùçéèä èäåøä äéúä.
She is exempt from Pesach Sheni, because at the time of Shechitah she was Tehorah [the blood she saw later is not Metamei her retroactively. Therefore, she was Yotzei Korban Pesach.]
TOSFOS DH Mai Taima d'R. Yosi Lav Mishum Miktzas ha'Yom k'Kulo
úåñôåú ã"ä îàé èòîà ãø' éåñé ìàå îùåí î÷öú äéåí ëëåìå
(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains the suggestion that Rav holds like R. Yosi.)
åîëàï åìäáà äéà îèîàä (ãàúîåì) ðîöà ëé áùòú ùçéèä åæøé÷ä äéúä èäåøä âîåøä ãîëàï åìäáà äéà îèîàä åìà ìîôøò
Explanation: From now and onwards she becomes Tamei. It turns out that at the time of Shechitah and Zerikah, she was totally Tehorah. [When she sees blood later] from now and onwards she becomes Tamei, but not retroactively.
åëé äãøà çæéà îèîàéðï ìä îëàï åìäáà åìîçø úòùä ùéîåø âîåø ìî÷öú éåí æä ùðèîàú
When she sees [blood] later, we are Metamei her from now and onwards. Tomorrow she does total Shimur for the part of this day on which she became Tamei.
Note: This is the law of Shomeres Yom k'Neged Yom, i.e. a woman who saw blood during the days of Zivah. If she sees one or two consecutive days, she must be Shomer (guard) the following day in Taharah. If she sees two [or three] consecutive days, she is a Zavah Ketanah [or Gedolah].
àìîà ãéåí ùðé æä î÷öú éåí çùáéðï ìéä éåí èäåø ãìéäåé ùéîåø ìéåí ùàúîåì äéìëê ùçéèä åæøé÷ä áèäøä äéä
Inference: This second day, we consider it a Tahor day for the previous day, therefore Shechitah and Zerikah were in Taharah;
åî÷öúå çùáéðï ìéä éåí èåîàä ãìéäåé éåí ùì îçø ùéîåø ìäàé î÷öú éåí
Part of [this second day], we consider it a day of Tum'ah, so the next day is Shimur for this partial day.
àáì øáðï ôìéâé åîèîàé ìîôøò åçùáéðï æä äéåí ëëåìå èîà [ëéåí] ùì àúîåì åøá ãàîø ëø' éåñé
Rabanan disagree. They are Metamei retroactively, and considered the entire day Tamei, like yesterday. Rav said like R. Yosi.
åàò"â ãäëà ðîé äéä ñáøà ìçùéáú éåí ëëåìå èîà ëéåí ùìôðéå ëñáøà ãøáðï àô"ä ø' éåñé îçùéáå ìëàï åìëàï åäééðå ëñáøú øá
Observation: Also here, there is a reason to consider the day to be totally Tamei, like the previous day, like Rabanan hold. Even so, R. Yosi considers it for both (partially Tahor like yesterday, and partially Tamei like tomorrow). This is like Rav.
åæå ùëúåá áñôøéí åãéìîà îùåí ã÷ñáø ìà âøñéðï ìéä ãàé ìàå äëé îä îäðé ùàéðå îèîà ìîôøò.
Correction: Texts of the Gemara say "perhaps it is because he holds [Miktzas ha'Yom k'Kulo]." The [correct] text does not say so. If not [that he holds that Miktzas ha'Yom k'Kulo], what does it help that he is not Metamei retroactively?! (In any case she is Tamei due to the end of the day!)
TOSFOS DH Zav Ba'al Shtei Re'iyos
úåñôåú ã"ä æá áòì ùúé øàéåú
(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains why we cannot say that he saw three sightings.)
ãàéìå áòì ùìùä ìà çæé ìîéëì ìàåøúà á÷ãùéí (äâäú îäø"á øðùáåøâ) òã éåí ç' ùéáéà ÷øáðåúéå
Distinction: We could not say that he saw three sightings, for then he cannot eat Kodshim at night, until the eighth day when he brings his Korbanos. (One is Yotzei Pesach only if at the time of Shechitah, it was possible for him to eat at night.)
åáéåí ç' ìà îöé ìîéð÷è åàç"ë øàä îèîà îùëá åîåùá ìîôøò
Implied question: [Why couldn't he discuss a Zav who saw three sightings,] on his eighth day (he counted seven days without emissions, and immersed)? If he saw afterwards, he is Metamei Mishkav u'Moshav retroactively!
ãîéåí æ' åàéìê ôñ÷ îñúéøä åîùëá åîåùá ãîàúîåì ùàçø äèáéìä òã äðä èäåøéï åàôé' øàä äéåí áéåí ç' ìà
Answer: From after day seven, he ceased Stirah (future emissions do not cancel his seven clean days. They are like new sightings of Zivah.) His Mishkav u'Moshav from yesterday, after Tevilah, until now, are Tehorim. Even if he saw today on day eight, he is not [Tamei retroactively].
TOSFOS DH Af Al Pi she'Metam'in Mishkav u'Moshav Lemafre'a
úåñôåú ã"ä àò"ô ùîèîàéï îùëá åîåùá ìîôøò
(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains the contradiction in R. Yosi, and the resolution.)
åàôéìå èáì áùáéòé îùëáåú ãìàçø èáéìä èîàéï ãñúø (äâäú áøëú øàù) îðééðå
Explanation: Even if he immersed on day seven, his Mishkavos after Tevilah are Teme'im, for he cancelled his count;
åäøé äåà ëúçéìúå ãëúéá åñôøä ìä ùáòú éîéí åäøé àéï ëàï æ' éîéí
He is like at the beginning [of counting clean days], for it says "v'Safrah Lah Shivas Yamim", and there are not here seven [consecutive clean days. The verse discusses a Zavah; the same applies to a Zav.]
åîã÷úðé áùåîøú (äâäú áøëú øàù) éåí ìîôøò èåîàä àìîà ìà àîø î÷öú éåí ëëåìå
Since he taught about a Shomeres Yom retroactive Tum'ah, this shows that he does not say that Miktzas ha'Yom k'Kulo! (If Miktzas ha'Yom k'Kulo, after guarding part of the day in Taharah, future sightings would not join to yesterday's sighting,)
å÷ùéà ãø' éåñé àãø' éåñé åîùðé ìîôøò îãøáðï àáì îï äúåøä èäåøä.
R. Yosi contradicts himself! We answer that the retroactive Tum'ah is mid'Rabanan. Mid'Oraisa, [retroactively] she is Tehorah.
TOSFOS DH Hachi Nami Mistabra v'Chulei
úåñôåú ã"ä äëé ðîé îñúáøà åëå'
(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains how this is rejected.)
åãçé àéîà ìê èåîàú äúäåí ãæéáä äúéøå
Explanation: We reject [the support]. I can say that they permitted Tum'as ha'Tehom (a Tum'ah that no one knew about) of Zivah (i.e. that the person will become Tamei retroactively due to a future sighting);
ëìåîø àéîà ìê ùîèîàéï ìîôøò îãàåøééúà åôèåøéï ìòùåú ôñç ùðé
i.e. I can say that they are Metamei retroactively mid'Oraisa, and [even so] they are exempt from Pesach Sheni;
ãäìëä ìîùä îñéðé ãèåîàú äúäåí (äâäú îäø"á øðùáåøâ) ãîú äåúøä ìòåùé ôñç åäàé úðà ñ"ì ãàôé' èåîàú äúäåí ãæéáä äåúøä ìòåùé äôñç.
This is because a tradition from Moshe from Sinai permits Tum'as ha'Tehom of Mes for one who offers Pesach. This Tana holds that even Tum'as ha'Tehom of Zivah is permitted for one who offers Pesach.
TOSFOS DH ha'Tehom
úåñôåú ã"ä äúäåí
(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains Tum'as ha'Tehom.)
ôé' ãáùòú ùçéèä éùá òì àáï àçú åìà ðåãò ëìì ù÷áø úçúéå òã àçø ùçéèä ðåãò ìå ùðéèîà á÷áø äúäåí
Explanation: At the time of Shechitah he sat on a rock, and did not know at all that a grave is underneath. Only after Shechitah it became known that he became Tamei through Kever ha'Tehom
åëï äëà ìà éãò àãí áùòú ùçéèä àí àçøé ëï úøàä åúñúåø ìäéåú èîàä åèåîàú äúäåí [äúéøå] ìòåùé äôñç åðæéø.
Similarly here, no one knew at the time of Shechitah whether she will see afterwards and cancel [her Shimur] to be Tamei retroactively. They permitted Tum'as ha'Tehom Zivah for one who offers Pesach, and a Nazir.
TOSFOS DH v'Af R. Oshaya
úåñôåú ã"ä åàó øáé àåùòéà
(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains that he holds like the previous answer.)
÷àé àùéðåéà ãìîôøò ãøáðï.
Explanation: This refers to the answer that retroactively [she is Tamei] mid'Rabanan.
TOSFOS DH Aval ha'Ro'eh Zov
úåñôåú ã"ä àáì äøåàä æåá
(SUMMARY: Tosfos is unsure what was taught beforehand, to which we contrast one who sees Zov.)
ôé' [øù"é] áëéöã öåìéï (ôñçéí ã' ôà.) ìà éãòéðï àäéëà ÷àé.
Question: Rashi in Pesachim (81a) did not know to what this refers.
TOSFOS DH Soser Es she'Lefanav v'Chulei
úåñôåú ã"ä ñåúø àú ùìôðéå ëå'
(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains that he cancels what he already counted.)
ñôåøéí ùñôø åöøéê ìîðåú æ' éîéí àçøéí,
Explanation: ["Lefanav" is] what he already counted. He must count another seven [clean] days.
TOSFOS DH Soser (part 2)
úåñôåú ã"ä ñåúø (çì÷ á)
(SUMMARY: Tosfos discusses the difficulty with R. Yochanan's words.)
[à"ì ø"é ìà ðñúåø àìà éåîå]
Citation of Gemara: R. Yochanan told [R. Oshaya] that he should cancel only that day.
éçæåø åéñôåø éåí àçã
Explanation: He should return to count one more day;
åäåéðï áä áîéìúà ãø' éåçðï àé ñúø ëåìäå áòé ìîéñúø ãëúéá åñôøä ìä æ' éîéí ìèäøúä ùìà úäà èåîàä îôñ÷ú áéðúéí
[The Gemara] asks about R. Yochanan's words. If he cancels, he should cancel all [of the days], for it says "v'Safrah Lah Shivas Yamim l'Taharasah" - Tum'ah may not separate between them (the seven clean days). The verse discusses a Zavah; the same applies to a Zav.]
áôø÷ ëéöã öåìéï âøñ [àé ÷ñáø ìîôøò äåà îèîà àôéìå ëåìäå ðñúåø]
Citation: In Pesachim (81a) the text says "if he holds that he is Metamei retroactively, he should cancel all of them";
åàé îëàï åìäáà äåà îèîà éåîå ðîé ìà ðñúåø ãäøé äéà ëøàéä øàùåðä ùì æéáä àçøú åàéï áä àìà èåîàú òøá
Citation (cont.): If he is Metamei from now and onwards, he should not cancel even this day, for it is like a first sighting of another Zivah, and there is only Tum'as Erev;
åéèáåì ìòøá åéèäø ã÷é"ì øàéä øàùåðä ùì æá ÷øé áòìîà äåà.
He immerses [before] evening and he is [totally] Tahor [at night], for we hold that the first sighting of Zov is like mere Keri (semen).
TOSFOS DH Hachi ka'Amar Lo Yistor v'Lo Yomo
úåñôåú ã"ä ä"÷ ìà éñúåø åìà éåîå
(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains why he should not cancel anything.)
ëìåîø àôé' éåîå ìôé ùëáø òìä ìå î÷öú äéåí åùìîå ìå ñôåøéí ùìå åéöà îëìì äæéáä.
Explanation: [He should not cancel] even that day, since part of the day already passed, and he finished his count, and departed from Zivah.
TOSFOS DH Amar Lei
úåñôåú ã"ä à"ì
(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains that R. Oshaya said to R. Yochanan.)
ôé' ø' àåùòéà ìø' éåçðï øáé éåñé ñáø ëååúê
Explanation: R. Oshaya said to R. Yochanan "R. Yosi holds like you."
äùúà îñé÷ ãøáé àåùòéà ñ"ì àìéáà ãø' éåñé ãîèîà ìîôøò äééðå îãøáðï.
Conclusion: Now we conclude that R. Oshaya holds that R. Yosi holds that he is Metamei retroactively, i.e. mid'Rabanan.