TOSFOS DH Bodek Heimenu u'Lehalan Chaf Amah
úåñôåú ã"ä áåã÷ äéîðå åìäìï ë' àîä
(SUMMARY: Tosfos resolves this with the Gemara in Bava Basra.)
áôø÷ äîåëø ôéøåú (á"á ãó ÷á.) ôøéê òùøéí åúøúéï äåééï ìùúé îòøåú ùùä òùø åçöø ä÷áø àîøéðï äúí ìø"ù åøáðï ùù àîä
Reference: In Bava Basra (102a), the Gemara asks that he should check 22 Amos, for [Mesim at opposite ends of] two caves. The length [of the two caves is in all] 16 Amos, and Chatzer ha'Kever (which is between the caves) is six according to R. Shimon and Rabanan;
åîùðé áðôìéí ùøâéìåú äåà ëùàçú îï äîòøåú âãåìåú äùðéä ùì ðôìéí åìëê áùðéú ñâé áàøáò òì ùù
We answer that [our Mishnah says 20 Amos, for it discusses] Nefalim. It is common that when one of the caves is big, the other is for miscarriages. Therefore, it suffices for the other to be four by six.
åàéëà ãîå÷é äúí ìîúðé' (ãäúí åîúðé') ãäëà ëøáðï ãàîøé úåëä ùì îòøä àøáò òì ùù
There, some establish the Mishnah here like Rabanan, and say that the inside of [each] cave is four by six (unlike R. Shimon, who says that it is four by eight);
åôøéê úîðé ñøé äåééï åîùðé ùáã÷ îòøä øàùåðä áàìëñåï åìçôù åìáãå÷ äéèá åîä ùäåà îúò÷í òåìä ìùúé àîåú.
The Gemara asks that if so, he should check only 18, and answers that he checked the first cave on the diagonal, in order to check well. Since he bent to the side, this takes another two Amos.
TOSFOS DH Matza Prat l'Matzuy
úåñôåú ã"ä îöà ôøè ìîöåé
(SUMMARY: Tosfos discusses what is excluded.)
ô' ø"é ùàí äéä éãåò ìà éäà ðåèìå ëãàîøéðï áôø÷ ðâîø äãéï (ñðäãøéï ãó îæ:) [÷áø äðîöà îåúø ìôðåúå] ÷áø äéãåò àñåø ìôðåúå
Explanation #1 (Ri): If it was known, he does not move it, like we say in Sanhedrin (47b) "a found grave, one may move it. A known grave, one may not move it."
åäà ãàîøéðï äúí ôéðäå (ëï äåà áãôåñ åðöéä) î÷åîå èäåø åäëà îùîò ãéù ìå úôåñä
Implied question: There, we say that if he moved it, its place is Tahor. Here it connotes that it has Tefusah (one must take also three fingers depth of virgin soil, or earth that could be from the Mes)!
àîø ø"é ãäúí ìà áúôåñä àééøé ãúôåñä äééðå ìöã ä÷ø÷ò áòåî÷ àáì äúí áèåîàä ãøáðï àééøé ãîãøáðï îèîéðï ìçåõ (äâäú àåøç îéùåø) ëì ä÷áø ìã' øåçåú
Answer (Ri): There, we do not discuss Tefusah. Tefusah is in the direction of going deeper into the ground. However, there it discusses Tum'ah mid'Rabanan. Mid'Rabanan, we are Metamei outside the entire grave in four directions.
àáì øùá"í ôéøù ôøè ìîöåé ãäééðå à' éãåò åùðéí áúçéìä ãáñîåê
Explanation #2 (Rashbam): "This excludes one that was known" refers to what it says below, "one that was known, and two that were found now."
å÷ùéà ìùéèúå ãà"ë áçðí ð÷è äîåöà ãäåà äãéï ìùìùúï éãåòéï ãéù ìå ùëåðú ÷áøåú.
Objection: If so, there was no need to say "one who finds", for the same applies to all three that were known, that they have [the law of] a burial site!
Note: I.e. the law of a burial site applies whether all three were known, or all three were found. We exclude only when one or two were known, and the other two or one were found. We do not exclude known graves any more than found ones! Presumably, the Rashbam's text was like Hagahos ha'Gra; the law of a burial site is only when all three were found.
TOSFOS DH Prat l'Harug
úåñôåú ã"ä ôøè ìäøåâ
(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains that this is because it is not complete.)
ëãàîøéðï áñîåê ãîú ùçñø àéï ìå úôåñä åàéï ìå ùëåðú ÷áøåú,
Explanation: This is like we say below, that a deficient Mes does not have the law of Tefusah, and not the law of a burial site.
TOSFOS DH Prat (part 2)
úåñôåú ã"ä ôøè (çì÷ á)
(SUMMARY: Tosfos questions the reason for this.)
îú ùçñø àéï ìå ùëåðú ÷áøåú
Citation of Gemara: A deficient Mes does not have the law of a burial site.
÷ùä ìäáéï ìîä
Question: It is difficult to understand why!
åùîà äìëä ìîùä îñéðé äåà.
Answer: Perhaps it is a tradition from Moshe from Sinai.
TOSFOS DH Echad Yadu'a...
úåñôåú ã"ä àçã éãåò...
(SUMMARY: Tosfos gives two explanations for this.)
øùá"í ôé' äìëä ìîùä îñéðé äåà
Explanation #1 (Rashbam): This is a tradition from Moshe from Sinai.
åø"é ôé' èòí áãáø ãàéï ìðå [ìåîø] ùëåðú ÷áøåú åáéú ä÷áøåú äéä äåàéì åð÷áøå ùí â' îúéí ëéåï ãà' ðåãò úçéìä
Explanation #2 (Ri): There is a reason for it. We should not say that it is a burial site, and it was a cemetery, because three Mesim were buried there, since one was known initially;
àé àéúà ãàéï ãòúå äéä ìôðåúí åìéùàø ùí ð÷áøå (äâäú áøëú øàù) ëé äéëé ãéãåò ìðå äàçã éäéå éãåòéí ìðå àåúí ùòîå
If it is true that [the ones who buried them there] did not intent to move them, and they were buried to remain there, just like the one was known to us, the ones with him would be known to us!
åìà àîøå ùëåðú ÷áøåú àìà àå [ìùìùä] éãåòéí àå ìùìùä úçéìä.
The law of a burial site was taught only when three were known, or three were found now.
TOSFOS DH Meisivei Kamah Shi'ur Tefusah
úåñôåú ã"ä îéúéáé ëîä ùéòåø úôåñä...
(SUMMARY: Tosfos discusses what he must take with the Mes.)
ôé' îï äàøåï ùì ùéù ùðëúú, åàú ä÷ññåú é"à ëîå ÷åææåú àãîä
Explanation #1: [He takes chips] of a marble coffin that was crushed. (Since we say that there is Rekev, we must say that it was a marble coffin.) Some say that "Kesasos" are like Kozezos Adamah (clumps of earth).
åæåø÷ àú äååãàéí ôéøåù îä ùåãàé ìï ùàéðå îï äîú åîðéç àú äñôé÷åú îä ùäåà îñåô÷ àí äéå îï äîú àí ìàå îðéç áî÷åí äîåöðò ùìà éèîàå òåùé èäøåú
"He discards the Vadai" means what is definitely not from the Mes. He leaves what is Safek, i.e. what he is unsure whether or not it is from the Mes. He leaves it in a hidden place, so people who engage in Taharos will not become Tamei through it.
åäùàø ùäåà áøåø ìå ùäåà îï äîú
"The rest" is what is clear to him that it is from the Mes.
îöèøôéï ìøåá áðéï àå ìøåá îðéï åìøåáò øåáò ä÷á ìèîà áàäì åìîìà úøååã ø÷á
They join with the majority of the stature or the majority of the number [of bones], and to a Rova, i.e. quarter Kav of bones, to have Tum'as Ohel.
åé"î ä÷ññåú (äâää áâìéåï, îàåøç îéùåø) ëîå ééï ÷åññ (á"á ãó öæ:) îéðé ÷éäåé åáùîéí ùîùéîéï áàøåï
Explanation #2: Some say that "Kesasos" is like Koses wine (it soured), i.e. vinegar or spices that they put in the coffin.
å÷ùä ãà"ë àéï ìå ø÷á ãðòùä âìâìéï îéãé ãäåä àð÷áø áàøåï òõ ãàó ùòøå äòåîã ìéâææ àéáòéà ìï ô' ë"â (ìòéì ãó ðà.) àé ðòùä âìâìéï
Objection: If so, there is no Rekev, for it is Galgalin, just like a Mes buried in a wood coffin. Even hair destined to be cut, we asked about it above (51a) whether it is Galgalin!
òåã îôøù ÷ññåú äééðå ìùåï ãáø áìåé ëîå åàú ôøéä (äâää áâìéåï) é÷åññ (éçæ÷àì éæ)
Explanation #3: "Kesasos" refers to something worn out, like "v'Es Piryah Yekoses."
àìîà úôåñä ìø"à áøáé öãå÷ àéðå æ÷å÷ ìéèåì òôø ãàéï ìå ìçôåø á÷ø÷ò áúåìä ëé àí (äâää áâìéåï) åãàé äîú åñôé÷å.
Inference: R. Eliezer bar Tzadok holds that one need not take Tefusah. He need not dig in virgin soil. He needs to take only what is Vadai from the Mes, and what is Safek.
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TOSFOS DH Ika d'Amrei Kivan she'Nitan Reshus Lefanos
úåñôåú ã"ä àéëà ãàîøé ëéåï ùðéúï øùåú ìôðåú
(SUMMARY: Tosfos questions why he may move the third.)
ùëáø ôéðä ÷åãí ùéãò ùùìùä äí àó äùìéùé îôðä ìî÷åí ùéøöä ãáàçã ìà ðú÷ï ùëåðú ÷áøåú
Explanation: He already moved [the first two] before he knew that there are three. He may move even the third where he wants, for we do not establish a burial site through one.
å÷öú ÷ùä
Question: This is difficult.
àí àéðå (äâäú áøëú øàù) äìëä äéà åùîà ëì æä îï ääìëä,
Answer: Perhaps this is a tradition from Sinai, and all this is part of the Halachah.
åìéùåéðäå ùëåðú ÷áøåú åîùðé àîø ø"ù áï ì÷éù òéìà îöàå åèéäøå ëì à"é åàéï ìäçæé÷ èåîàä åìäçîéø.
The Gemara suggested that we should establish it to be a burial site. Reish Lakish answered that they found an excuse and were Metaher all of Eretz Yisrael. We should not establish Tum'ah and be stringent.
TOSFOS DH Kol Safek Nega'im ba'Tchilah...
úåñôåú ã"ä ëì ñô÷ ðâòéí áúçéìä...
(SUMMARY: Tosfos brings the case of the Mishnah in Nega'im.)
ãàå÷îéä àçæ÷úéä
Explanation: We establish him on his Chazakah;
åáîñëú ðâòéí (ô"ä î"ã) îôøù ëéöã ùðéí ùáàå àöì ëäï áæä áäøú ëâøéñ åáæä áäøú ëñìò
In Maseches Nega'im (5:4) it explains that two came to a Kohen. One had a Baheres (appearance of Tzara'as) the size of a bean, and the other had a Baheres the size of a coin (a Sela);
ìñåó ùáåò áæä ëñìò åáæä ëñìò åàéðå éåãò [àéæä îäï] ôùä èäåø,
At the end of a week, each is the size of a bean, and he does not know which spread. [Each] is Tahor.
TOSFOS DH Kol (part 2)
úåñôåú ã"ä ëì (çì÷ á)
(SUMMARY: Tosfos brings the case of the Mishnah in Nega'im.)
îùðæ÷÷ ìèåîàä
Citation of Gemara: Once he was declared Tamei (Muchlat).
äúí îôøù ëéöã ùðéí áàå àöì ëäï áæä ëñìò åáæä ëâøéñ ìñåó ùáåò áæä ëñìò åòåã åáæä [ëñìò] åòåã èîàéï
Citation (Nega'im 5:4 - Mishnah): Two came to a Kohen. One had [a Baheres] the size of a coin, and the other had the size of a bean. At the end of a week, each is more than the size of a coin. They are Tamei [Muchlat];
ìñåó áæä åáæä ëñìò åàéðå éåãò àéæä îäí ëéää ùðéäí èîàéí òã ùéçæé÷ ìùðéäí ìäéåú ëâøéí ãëì çã àå÷îéä áçæ÷ú èåîàä.
Citation (cont.): At the end of a week, each is the size of a coin. He does not know which dulled (the spreading went away, and is no bigger than it was at the end of the first week). Both are Tamei, until it will be the size of a bean [or less] on both of them, for we establish each in Chezkas Tum'ah.
TOSFOS DH v'R. Yehoshua Omer Keihah...
úåñôåú ã"ä åøáé éäåùò àåîø ëéää...
(SUMMARY: Tosfos justifies the Havah Amina.)
åúéîä ãà"ë äééðå ú"÷
Question: If he was Metamei, this is like the first Tana! (What do they argue about?)
åôé' äø"ø éäåãä î÷åøáééì åãéìîà ëéää åèîà åáà ìçìå÷ òì ú"÷ ùúðà ÷îà [îèîàå] îñô÷ åø' éäåùò áà ìåîø ùäåà åãàé îöåøò
Answer (Rabbeinu Yehudah of Korvil): Perhaps Keihah and he was Metamei. He comes to argue with the first Tana, for the first Tana is Metamei due to Safek. R. Yehoshua says that he is a Vadai Metzora [Muchlat];
åîùðé ìê ãëéää åèéäø ìâîøé ãàîø ÷øà ìèäøå àå ìèîàå äåàéì åôúç áèäøä úçéìä ìòåìí ìà ðàîøä áîöåøò àìà èäåø âîåø àå èîà âîåø.
The Gemara answers that he was Keihah and totally Metaher, for it says "Letaharo Oh Letam'o" - since the verse began with Taharah first, [the Torah said that] a Metzora is totally Tahor or totally Tamei. (Keren Orah - all expound that there is no Tum'as Metzora mi'Safek. Since the first Tana is Metamei Vadai, R. Yehoshua must be Metaher.)
Note: The words of Tosfos connote that because the Torah began with Taharah, there is no Tum'as Safek. I do not understand this. Arzei ha'Levanon suggests that "because the Torah began with Taharah" explains why R. Yehoshua is Metaher. (However, all agree that "Letaharo Oh Letam'o" teaches that there is only Taharah Vadai and Tum'ah Vadai.)
TOSFOS DH b'Shiv'ah Derachim Bodkin Es ha'Zav...
úåñôåú ã"ä áùáòä ãøëéí áåã÷éï àú äæá...
(SUMMARY: Tosfos discusses what is called "seeing".)
ëîå áøàéä øàùåðä àå ùðéä, áîàëì åáîùúä áîùà åá÷ôéöä
Explanation: E.g. regarding the first two sightings we check him, regarding eating, drinking, carrying, and jumping.
áîøàä, ùøàä àéù åàùä ðæ÷÷éï æä ìæä
"Seeing" refers to seeing a man and woman having relations.
åëï îùîò áîñ' æáéï (ô"á î"á) ãôìéâ øáé éäåãä åàîø àôé' øàä áäîä çéä åòåó ðæ÷÷éï æä ìæä îäøäø,
Support: In Zavim (2:2), R. Yehudah argues, and says that even if he saw animals, Chayos or birds mating [this is called seeing, for] he will have thoughts.
TOSFOS DH b'Shiv'ah (part 2)
úåñôåú ã"ä áùáòä (çì÷ á)
(SUMMARY: Tosfos discusses when we do not check him.)
îùðæ÷÷ ìèåîàä
Citation of Gemara: Once he became Tamei.
ëîå áøàéä ùìéùéú ìøáðï ôø÷ áðåú ëåúéí (ðãä ãó ìä.) ãîçééáé ÷øáï àå (äâäú áøëú øàù) øáéòéú ìø"à ìéñúåø îä ùñôø àéï áåã÷éï àåúå
Explanation: E.g. we do not check him on the third sighting according to Rabanan in Nidah (35a), which obligates him a Korban, or on the fourth sighting according to R. Eliezer, to be Soser [clean days that he counted];
ãäà îáùøå åìà îçîú àåðñå ìà ÷àé àìà àùúéí ìøáðï àå àùìéùéú ìø"à.
This is because '"mi'Besaro", and not due to Ones' refers only to the first two sightings according to Rabanan, or [even] the third, according to R. Eliezer.
TOSFOS DH R. Eliezer Omer ba'Shelishis Bodkin Oso...
úåñôåú ã"ä øáé àìòæø àåîø áùìéùéú áåã÷éï àåúå...
(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains why R. Eliezer expounds unlike Chachamim.)
î"è ãø"à ãìéú ìéä ãøùä ãàîøéðï àìà áàúéí ÷îéôìâé
Explanation: Why doesn't R. Eliezer hold like the Drashah we said? Rather, they argue about expounding "Es";
ø"à ãøéù äæá çãà àú úøúé æåáå úìúà áøáéòéú à÷ùééä ìð÷áä åáôø÷ áðåú ëåúéí (ðãä ãó ìä.) îôøù ìéä äù"ñ èôé.
R. Eliezer expounds "ha'Zav" to teach one sighting. "Es" teaches a second. "Zovo" is a third. Regarding the fourth, ["la'Zachar vela'Nekevah"] equates him (a Zav) to a female (Zavah). In Nidah (35a), the Gemara explains more.