ZEVACHIM 4 (2 Iyar) - Dedicated by Mrs. Libi Feinberg l'Iluy Nishmas her late mother, Rachel Leah bas Reb Yaakov Ha'Levi.

1)

(a)What do we learn from the Pasuk ...

1. ... in Vayikra "ve'Im Zevach Shelamim Korbano"?

2. ... in Tzav "ha'Makriv es Dam ha'Shelamim", and "ha'Zorek es Dam ha'Shelamim" (to vindicate the previous D'rashah)?

(b)We then discuss the source for li'Shemah with regard to the other three Avodos. Which Avodos?

(c)Why can we not learn them from Shechitah? Which Chumra pertains to Shechitah exclusively?

1)

(a)We learn from the Pasuk ...

1. ... in Vayikra "ve'Im Zevach Shelamim Korbano" that - Korbanos require Shechitah li'Shemah (Lechatchilah).

2. ... in Tzav "ha'Makriv es Dam ha'Shelamim", and "ha'Zorek es Dam ha'Shelamim" that - Zevach Shelamim is not the intrinsic name of the Korban (thereby vindicating the previous D'rashah).

(b)We then discuss the source for li'Shemah with regard to the other three Avodos - Kabalah (receiving the blood in a K'li Shareis), Holachah (carrying the K'li Shareis to the Mizbe'ach) and Zerikah (sprinkling the blood on the wall of the Mizbe'ach).

(c)We cannot learn them from Shechitah - because it has the Chumra of rendering the Korban Pesach Pasul if it is Shechted on behalf of a sick or old person who is unable to eat a k'Zayis (which does not apply to them).

2)

(a)Which Avodah (li'Shemah) do we then learn from "ha'Makriv es Dam ha'Shelamim"?

(b)Why can we not learn the P'sul of Shechitah she'Lo li'Shemah from Kabalah?

(c)We learn the P'sul of Zerikah she'Lo li'Shemah from the Pasuk in Tzav "ha'Zorek es Dam ha'Shelamim". Besides the fact that Shechitah and Kabalah require 'Tzafon' (the north of the Azarah [in the case of Kodshei Kodshim]), what other reason is there that prevents deriving Zerikah directly from them?

(d)And why can we not then learn them from Zerikah?

2)

(a)So we learn from "ha'Makriv es Dam ha'Shelamim" that - Kabalah must be performed li'Shemah.

(b)On the other hand, we cannot learn the P'sul of Shechitah she'Lo li'Shemah from Kabalah - because it (Kabalah) cannot be performed by a Zar (whereas Shechitah can).

(c)We learn the P'sul of Zerikah she'Lo li'Shemah from the Pasuk in Tzav "ha'Zorek es Dam ha'Shelamim". Besides the fact that Shechitah and Kabalah require 'Tzafon' (the north of the Azarah [in the case of Kodshei Kodshim] which does not apply to Zerikah), we cannot derive Zerikah directly from them - because whereas they are performed even with Chata'os ha'Penimiyos (Chata'os whose blood is sprinkled inside the Azarah), Zerikah (on the Mizbe'ach ha'Chitzon) is not.

(d)Neither can we learn them from Zerikah - since Zerikah possesses the Chumra that a Zar who performs it is Chayav Misah, which is not the case with Shechitah (which he may perform Lechatchilah) and Kabalah (for which he is not Chayav Misah).

3)

(a)Why can we not learn Holachah from the other three Avodos?

(b)If, as we conclude, the Pasuk in Vayikra "Ve'Hikriv es ha'Kol Ve'Hiktir ha'Mizbeichah" refers to Holachas Evarim (carrying the limbs to the Mizbe'ach, as Mar taught), how do we know that the Pasuk there "Ve'hikrivu B'nei Aharon ... " refers to Kabalas ha'Dam (and not exclusively to Holachas ha'Dam)?

(c)Then why does the Torah use the Lashon "Ve'hikrivu" (which really refers to Holachah, as we just explained)?

3)

(a)We cannot learn Holachah from the other three Avodos - because they are not dispensable in the way that it is (if he is already standing next to the Mizbe'ach).

(b)Even though the Pasuk in Vayikra "Ve'Hikriv es ha'Kol ve'Hiktir ha'Mizbeichah" refers to Holachas Evarim (carrying the limbs to the Mizbe'ach, as Mar taught), the Pasuk "Ve'hikrivu B'nei Aharon ... " must nevertheless refer to Kabalas ha'Dam (and not exclusively to Holachas ha'Dam) - since it is written immediately after Shechitah (which is when Kabalah is performed).

(c)Nevertheless, the Torah uses the Lashon "Ve'hikrivu" (which really refers to Holachah, as we just explained) - to teach us that Kabalah follows the same pattern as Holachah, so that just as the latter is Pasul she'Lo li'Shemah, so is the former.

4)

(a)Rav Pinchas b'rei de'Rav Ami quotes the Pasuk in Tzav "u'Vesar Zevach Todas Shelamav" which appears to teach us that one must Shecht the Todah le'Shem Todah. Why is this D'rashah unacceptable?

(b)Then what does he learn from there (Im Eino Inyan)?

(c)We have a problem with this however, since the Beraisa learns something else from there. What does Aba Chanin in the name of Rebbi Eliezer there learn from this Pasuk with regard to ...

1. ... a Todah that one Shechts as a Shelamim?

2. ... a Shelamim that one Shechts as a Todah?

(d)What is the reason for this distinction?

4)

(a)Rav Pinchas b'rei de'Rav Ami quotes the Pasuk in Tzav "u'Vesar Zevach Todas Shelamav" which appears to teach us that one must Shecht the Todah le'Shem Todah. However, this D'rashah is unacceptable - because we already learned Shinuy Kodesh above with regard to Shelamim (which incorporates a Todah).

(b)He therefore learns from there (Im Eino Inyan) - the P'sul of Shinuy Ba'alim (that one is obligated Lechatchilah to Shecht the Korban on behalf of the owner, and not on behalf of anybody else).

(c)We have a problem with this however, since the Beraisa learns something else from there. In fact, Aba Chanin in the name of Rebbi Eliezer there learns from this Pasuk that if one Shechts ...

1. ... a Todah as a Shelamim - it is Kasher.

2. ... a Shelamim as a Todah - it is Pasul.

(d)The reason for this distinction is - because whereas a Todah is called a Shelamim, a Shelamim is not called a Todah.

5)

(a)So Aba Chanin learns Shinuy Ba'alim (Im Eino Inyan) from the word "Zevach". What is the problem with that? In which Din of Korban Todah does the Beraisa include Chatas and Asham, from the word "Zevach"?

(b)How does Aba Chanin Amar Rebbi Eliezer nevertheless learn Shinuy Ba'alim from there ("u'Vesar Zevach Todas Shelamav")? What ought the Pasuk to have written had it come exclusively for the Din of Chatas and Asham?

(c)We cannot learn the other Avodos from Shechitah (regarding the P'sul of Shinuy Ba'alim, for the same reason as we could not do so by Shinuy Kodesh). We therefore learn them from a 'Mah Matzinu from Shinuy Kodesh. What is the basis of this Mah Matzinu?

5)

(a)So Aba Chanin learns Shinuy Ba'alim (Im Eino Inyan) from the word "Zevach". The problem with that is that - the Beraisa learns from "Zevach" that Chatas and Asham have the same Din as a Todah, in that they must be eaten within a day and a night.

(b)Aba Chanin Amar Rebbi Eliezer nevertheless learns Shinuy Ba'alim from there - because had the Pasuk come exclusively for the Din of Chatas and Asham, it ought to have written "u'Vesar Todas Shelamav Zevach ... Ye'achel" (to place "Zevach" next to "Ye'achel"). Now that it places it at the beginning of the phrase, we learn both Dinim from it.

(c)We cannot learn the other Avodos from Shechitah (regarding the P'sul of Shinuy Ba'alim, for the same reason as we could not do so by Shinuy Kodesh). We therefore learn them from a Mah Matzinu from Shinuy Kodesh - based on the fact that the Torah writes "Zevach" in both places. Note, that this is not a 'Gezeirah-Shavah', since neither "Zevach" is redundant.

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6)

(a)We ask four Kashyos on the Mah Matzinu however. We ask that Shinuy Kodesh is 'Pesulo be'Gufo' (an intrinsic P'sul, which Shinuy Ba'alim is not) and that it applies to all four Avodos (which Shinuy Ba'alim does not). To which of the Avodos does Shinuy Ba'alim not apply?

(b)Why is that?

(c)How do we reconcile this with what we learned earlier (that the P'sul of Shinuy Ba'alim applies even to the Shechitah)?

6)

(a)We ask four Kashyos on the Mah Matzinu however. We ask that Shinuy Kodesh is 'Pesulo be'Gufo' (an intrinsic P'sul, which Shinuy Ba'alim is not) and that it applies to all four Avodos (which Shinuy Ba'alim does not). Shinuy Ba'alim applies only to Zerikah, but not to - Shechitah, Kabalah and Holachah ...

(b)... because le'Shem Ba'alim has no relevance other than to the Kaparah, which is synonymous with the Zerikah.

(c)We reconcile this with what we learned earlier (that the P'sul of Shinuy Ba'alim applies even to the Shechitah) - by establishing that case where he Shechted the animal in order to sprinkle its blood on behalf of someone else.

7)

(a)The third Kashya is that Shinuy Kodesh applies even after the owner's death (which Shinuy Ba'alim does not). What is the fourth?

(b)Why is Shinuy Ba'alim not applicable to a Korban Tzibur?

(c)Two of these Kashyos, we conclude, are not sound. What is wrong with the Kashya that Shinuy Kodesh is Pesulo be'Gufo, whereas Shinuy Ba'alim is not?

(d)The Kashya distinguishing between Shinuy Kodesh and Shinuy Ba'alim after the owner's death is not a Kashya either, because of the opinion of Rav Pinchas b'rei de'Rav Mari. What does Rav Pinchas b'rei de'Rav Mari say about Shinuy Ba'alim after the owner's death?

7)

(a)The third Kashya is that Shinuy Kodesh applies even after the owner's death, and the fourth - that it applies to a Tzibur (neither of which Shinuy Ba'alim does).

(b)Shinuy Ba'alim is not applicable to a Korban Tzibur - because everyone is a joint-owner (so how can one Shecht it on behalf of someone who is not an owner?).

(c)Two of these Kashyos, we conclude, are not sound. The problem with the Kashya that Shinuy Kodesh is Pesulo be'Gufo, whereas Shinuy Ba'alim is not, is that - in reality, neither are really a P'sul ha'Guf, but a P'sul Machshavah.

(d)The Kashya distinguishing between Shinuy Kodesh and Shinuy Ba'alim after the owner's death is not a Kashya either, because of the opinion of Rav Pinchas b'rei de'Rav Mari, who holds - 'Yesh Shinuy Ba'alim le'Achar Misah' (in which case this distinction falls away too).

8)

(a)In any event, due to the remaining two Kashyos, we cannot learn Shinuy Ba'alim from Shinuy Kodesh. How does Rav Ami therefore learn it from the Pasuk in Vayikra "Ve'nirtzah lo Lechaper Alav"?

(b)We query this from a Beraisa however. What does Rebbi Shimon learn from "Ve'nirtzah lo Lechaper alav"?

(c)How does Rav Yitzchak bar Avdimi explain Rebbi Shimon? From which word does he learn it?

(d)So how do we reconcile Rav Ami with Rebbi Shimon? What exactly is his source for Shinuy Ba'alim?

8)

(a)In any event, due to the remaining two Kashyos, we cannot learn Shinuy Ba'alim from Shinuy Kodesh. Rav Ami therefore learns it from the Pasuk in Vayikra "Ve'nirtzah lo Lechaper alav" - which he explains to mean "alav", 've'Lo al Chavero'.

(b)We query this from a Beraisa however, where Rebbi Shimon learns from "Ve'nirtzah lo Lechaper alav" - 'es she'Alav Chayav be'Achariyuso' (by which he means that a Neder ('Harei Alai'), which he remains obligated to bring), he is responsible for, but not a Nedavah ('Harei Zu Alai').

(c)Rav Yitzchak bar Avdimi explains that - Rebbi Shimon derives his Din from the word "Alav", which has connotations of carrying a load on his shoulders.

(d)We reconcile Rav Ami with Rebbi Shimon - by citing his source (not as "Alav", but) as "Ve'nirtzah lo", "lo", ve'Lo al Chavero' (and not from "Alav", as we initially thought).

9)

(a)We now know the P'sul of Shechitah and of Zerikah by Shinuy Ba'alim. Why can we not learn Kabalas ha'Dam from them?

(b)Rava therefore learns it from the Pasuk in Naso "ve'es ha'Ayil Ya'aseh Zevach Shelamim". In which connection is this Pasuk written?

(c)How does he learn P'sul Ba'alim from there? How does he know that the Pasuk is not speaking about Shinuy Kodesh (which it certainly seems to be)?

9)

(a)We now know the P'sul of Shechitah and of Zerikah by Shinuy Ba'alim. We cannot learn Kabalas ha'Dam from them - because they are among the Avodos for which one is Chayav for performing outside the Beis-Hamikdash, which Kabalas ha'Dam is not.

(b)Rava therefore learns it from the Pasuk in Naso "ve'es ha'Ayil Ya'aseh Zevach Shelamim"- which is written in connection with the Eil (the ram of a) Nazir.

(c)He learns P'sul Ba'alim from there - by Darshening (Im Eino Inyan) 'she'Tehei Asiyaso le'Shem Shelamim'. It cannot be speaking about Shinuy Kodesh - because we already know that (from the sources that we cited on the previous Amud).

10)

(a)What did Rav Acha bar Aba mean when he asked Rava why we do not consider "Ya'aseh" a K'lal and "Zevach" a P'rat? So what if we do?

(b)Rava replied that he would have agreed with him had the Torah written "Ya'aseh Shelamim Zevach". However, the Torah writes "Ya'aseh Zevach Shelamim ". What did he mean by that? What is the difference between the two texts?

(c)Ravina disagrees with Rava, and to answer the Kashya, he cites "la'Hashem" as the second K'lal. What does he achieve by doing that? How does that solve the problem?

(d)Rav Acha from Difti points out a discrepancy between the two 'K'lalim'. What does he mean when he says that ...

1. ... the first K'lal ("Ya'aseh") incorporates Asiyos?

2. ... the second K'lal incorporates whatever is for Hash-m? What does this refer to, besides pouring the leftovers of blood on to the Y'sod (the foundation of the Mizbe'ach)?

(e)What is the difference between the four Avodos and the latter two?

10)

(a)When Rav Acha bar Aba asked Rava why we do not consider "Ya'aseh" a K'lal and "Zevach" a P'rat - he was referring to the principle of K'lal u'P'rat, Ein bi'Chelal Ela Mah she'bi'Perat, in which case Shinuy Ba'alim should be confined to Shechitah.

(b)Rava replied that he would have agreed with him had the Torah written "Ya'aseh Shelamim Zevach". However, the Torah writes "Ya'aseh Zevach Shelamim" - in which case the word "Zevach" interrupts between the K'lal and the P'rat, rendering it ineffective.

(c)Ravina disagrees with Rava, and to answer Rav Acha bar Aba's Kashya, he cites "la'Hashem" as the second K'lal, turning it into a K'lal u'P'rat u'K'lal (to include all the Avodos that are similar to the P'rat). Evidently, a K'lal u'P'rat u'K'lal is not subject to the stringency cited by Rava in connection with a K'lal u'P'rat.

(d)Rav Acha from Difti points out a discrepancy between the two K'lalim. When he says that ...

1. ... the first K'lal ("Ya'aseh") incorporates Asiyos, he means - the four Avodos.

2. ... the second K'lal incorporates whatever is for Hash-m, he is referring (besides to pouring the leftovers of blood on to the Y'sod (the foundation of the Mizbe'ach) - to the Haktaras Eimurim (the burning of the fat-pieces) on the Mizbe'ach.

(e)The difference between the four Avodos and the latter two is - the fact that the first four are Me'akev (are crucial to) the Korban, whereas the latter two are not.

11)

(a)Ravina replies that the author of the Beraisa is Tana de'bei Rebbi Yishmael. What does Tana de'bei Rebbi Yishmael say?

(b)We ask that the P'rat might be confined to Avodos for which one is Chayav for performing outside the Beis-Hamikdash. Which Avodah would that ...

1. ... include?

2. ... exclude?

(c)On the other hand, we add, it might be confined to something that requires the north side of the Azarah and that applies to Chata'os ha'Penimiyos. Which Avodah would that ...

1. ... include?

2. ... exclude?

(d)How do we deal with this apparent discrepancy?

(e)What do we mean when we give as an alternative answer 'Zerikah mi'de'Rav Ami Nafka'?

11)

(a)Ravina replies that the author of the Beraisa is Tana de'bei Rebbi Yishmael - who Darshens a K'lal u'P'rat u'K'lal even where the two K'lalim have different implications.

(b)We ask that the P'rat might be confined to Avodos for which one is Chayav for performing outside the Beis-Hamikdash ...

1. ... including - Zerikah.

2. ... excluding - Kabalah and Holachah (see Hagahos ha'Bach).

(c)On the other hand, we add, it might be confined to something that requires the north side of the Azarah and that applies to Chata'os ha'Penimiyos ...

1. ... including - Kabalah and Holachah.

2. ... excluding - Zerikah.

(d)We deal with this apparent discrepancy - by applying the principle 'Shekulin hein, Ve'yavo'u Sheneihen' (since we do not know which way to learn [whether to preclude Kabalah and Holachah or to preclude Zerikah], we include them all).

(e)When we give as an alternative answer 'Zerikah mi'de'Rav Ami Nafka', we mean that - we accept the second suggestion (that the P'rat refers to something that requires the north side of the Azarah and that applies to Chata'os ha'Penimiyos, including Kabalah and Holachah, but not Zerikah), only we already included Zerikah from the D'rashah "Ve'nirtzah o Le'chaper alav" that Rav Ami cited above.

12)

(a)We now have a source for Shinuy Ba'alim by the Eil Nazir. Why can we not learn other Shelamim from it?

(b)How do we then learn other Shelamim from the same Pasuk ("ve'es ha'Ayil Ya'aseh Zevach Shelamim")?

(c)Why can we not learn the other Korbanos from Shelamim? Which three Chumros pertain to the Shelamim but not to other Korbanos?

(d)None of the other Korbanos require Chazeh ve'Chok (to be waved and given to the Kohen). Which of the Chumros does not pertain to ...

1. ... Bechor, Ma'aser and Pesach?

2. ... Chatas and Asham?

12)

(a)We now have a source for Shinuy Ba'alim by the Eil Nazir. We cannot however, learn other Shelamim from it - because it is unique in that other Korbanos are brought together with it.

(b)We learn other Shelamim from the same Pasuk ("ve'es ha'Ayil Ya'aseh Zevach Shelamim") - from the fact that the Torah writes "Shelamim" and not Shalmei.

(c)We cannot learn the other Korbanos from Shelamim, because it possesses three Chumros that other Korbanos do not - it requires Semichah, Nesachim and the waving of the Chazeh ve'Shok.

(d)None of the other Korbanos require Chazeh ve'Chok (to be waved and given to the Kohen). In addition ...

1. ... B'chor, Ma'aser and Pesach - require neither Semichah nor Nesachim.

2. ... Chatas and Asham do not require - Nesachim.

13)

(a)What is the significance of the Pasuk in Tzav "Zos ha'Torah la'Olah ve'la'Minchah ve'la'Chatas u'le'Asham ve'la'Milu'im u'le'Zevach ha'Shelamim"?

(b)Why do we then need the Pasuk in Ki Seitzei "Motza Sefasecha Tishmor ve'Asisa ka'asher Nadarta ... " (as we explained earlier in the Perek)?

(c)Seeing as the Pasuk is speaking about a Neder, why does it conclude with the word "Nedavah"?

(d)Now that the Torah has written the Pasuk "Motza Sefasecha ... ", why does it need to add "Zos ha'Torah ... "?

13)

(a)The Pasuk in Tzav "Zos ha'Torah la'Olah ve'la'Minchah ve'la'Chatas u'le'Asham ve'la'Milu'im u'le'Zevach ha'Shelamim" is - our ultimate source that compares all other Korbanos to Shelamim, with regard to the P'sul of both Shinuy Kodesh and Shinuy Ba'alim.

(b)We nevertheless need the Pasuk in Ki Seitzei "Motza Sefasecha Tishmor ve'Asisa ka'asher Nadarta Nedavah" - to teach us that the Korban is intrinsically Kasher (like a Nedavah, as we explained earlier in the Perek).

(c)Even though the Pasuk is speaking about a Neder, the Torah adds the word "Nedavah", to teach us that if one brings the Korban with the wrong Kavanah, it becomes a Nedavah, and one remains obligated to fulfil one's Neder (as we explained earlier).

(d)And even though the Torah has written "Motza Sefasecha ... ", it still needs to write "Zos ha'Torah ... " - because "Motza Sefasecha" does not indicate which kind of P'sul it is that is Pasul Lechatchilah.

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