1)

(a)What problem do we have with the extra bit of oil which the Kohen adds after the Kemitzah, to perform the Matanos, in case it is an Asham Metzora?

(b)We answer that he redeems it. What must he stipulate when he does?

(c)How come that that oil was not sanctified together with the rest of the Log?

(d)What problem do we still have, assuming he redeems the oil ...

1. ... inside the Azarah?

2. ... outside the Azarah?

1)

(a)The problem with the extra bit of oil which the Kohen adds after the Kemitzah (to perform the Matanos, in case it is an Asham Metzora is that - it needs to be eaten (irrespective of whether it is part of the Asham or a Nedavah), yet it cannot be eaten, since, if it is a Nedavah, it requires another Kemitzah to permit it.

(b)We answer that he redeems it, stipulating when he does that - if it is a Nedavah, then he is duly redeeming it on the money that he brings with him.

(c)That oil was not sanctified together with the rest of the Log - because, since it was not placed in the K'li Shareis together with it when he sanctified it, it remains Chulin (since a K'li Shareis only sanctifies what one specifically intends it to sanctify).

(d)The problem we still have, assuming he redeems the oil ...

1. ... inside the Azarah is that - the moment he redeems it, it is as if he brought Chulin into the Azarah (which is forbidden).

2. ... outside the Azarah - then he will have transgressed taking Kodshei Kodshim outside the Azarah (which is forbidden, too).

2)

(a)We conclude that he redeems it inside the Azarah. Then how do we resolve the problem of bringing Chulin into the Azarah?

(b)If the Kohen were to reverse the order and first finish all the Avodos as if it was a Metzora, before performing the Kemitzah, he would avoid the last set of Kashyos. Why then, do we not establish the Beraisa like that?

(c)And how do we reconcile our interpretation of the Beraisa with Rebbi Shimon himself, who holds in a Mishnah in the tenth Perek that one cannot donate oil as a Korban?

2)

(a)We conclude that he redeems it inside the Azarah, and the reason that he has not transgressed bringing Chulin into the Azarah is - because the transfer from Hekdesh to Chulin took place automatically, without him performing any act that is Asur.

(b)If the Kohen were to reverse the order and first finish all the Avodos as if it was a Metzora, before performing the Kemitzah, he would have avoided the last set of Kashyos. We do not establish the Beraisa like that - because the obligation to bring something on the Mizbe'ach takes precedence over other considerations (Shitah Mekubetzes). In fact, performing the Matanos with it is like destroying Kodshei Mizbe'ach.

(c)An we reconcile our interpretation of the Beraisa with Rebbi Shimon himself, who holds in a Mishnah in the tenth Perek that one cannot donate oil as a Korban - by allowing it here on account of 'Tikunei Gavra', as we explained above (to answer a different Kashya).

3)

(a)What does Rebbi Eliezer say in Kerisus about bringing an Asham Taluy as a Nedavah?

(b)Rav Rechumi in the name of Rav Huna bar Tachlifa asked why Rebbi Shimon did not require the Metzora to stipulate that if he is not a Metzora, then the animal will be an Asham Metzora. What would be the advantage of doing that?

(c)What did Rav Rechumi try to prove from here?

(d)Why was Ravina surprised at the Kashya?

3)

(a)Rebbi Eliezer in Kerisus - permits bringing an Asham Taluy as a Nedavah even Lechatchilah, to atone for sins that he inevitably performed.

(b)Rav Rechumi in the name of Rav Huna bar Tachlifa asked why Rebbi Shimon did not require the Metzora to stipulate that if he is not a Metzora, then the animal will be an Asham Metzora - because then, seeing as either way, the Korban will have to be eaten in one day, there is no problem of causing Kodshim to be burned.

(c)Rav Rechumi tried to prove from here that - Rebbi Shimon must be the one who argues with Rebbi Eliezer in Kerisus.

(d)Ravina was surprised at the Kashya however - since an Asham Metzora comes as a lamb in its first year, whereas an Asham Taluy comes as a ram (so how can one make such a stipulation?).

4)

(a)Our Mishnah discusses a case where limbs of a Chatas became mixed up with those of an Olah. According to Rebbi Eliezer, all the limbs must be placed on the Mizbe'ach. How does he justify burning the limbs of the Chatas?

(b)On what grounds do the Chachamim disagree with him?

(c)So what do they say should be done with the limbs?

(d)Rebbi Eliezer's source lies in the words "le'Re'ach Nicho'ach" (in the Pasuk in Vayikra "ve'el ha'Mizbe'ach Lo Ya'alu le'Re'ach Nicho'ach"), as we explained earlier. If the Rabbanan preclude 'Kol she'Mimenu le'Ishim' (that we discussed earlier) from the word "Osam (in the Pasuk there "Korban Reishis Takrivu Osam"), what do they include in the main Pasuk?

4)

(a)Our Mishnah discusses a case where limbs of a Chatas became mixed up with those of an Olah. According to Rebbi Eliezer, all the limbs must be placed on the Mizbe'ach. He justifies burning the limbs of the Chatas - by viewing them as if they were pieces of wood (seeing as the Kohen does not intend to burn them as limbs of a Korban).

(b)The Chachamim disagree with him - because they do not hold of that S'vara (in which case the Kohen will transgress Kol she'Mimenu le'Ishim ... ).

(c)Therefore they say that - the limbs should be left overnight to become Pasul be'Linah, before being taken out to the Beis ha'Sereifah and burned.

(d)Rebbi Eliezer's source lies in the words "le'Re'ach Nicho'ach" (in the Pasuk in Vayikra "ve'el ha'Mizbe'ach Lo Ya'alu le'Re'ach Nicho'ach"), as we explained earlier). The Rabbanan preclude 'Kol she'Mimenu le'Ishim' (that we discussed earlier) from the word "Osam (in the Pasuk there "Korban Reishis Takrivu Osam"), and they include in the main Pasuk - the Sh'tei ha'Lechem and Bikurim, which they learn (one must bring as a Korban, though not on the Mizbe'ach) from "Se'or" and "D'vash", respectively.

5)

(a)What does Rebbi Eliezer incorporate in the Pasuk "ve'el ha'Mizbe'ach Lo Ya'alu" with regard to the prohibition of bringing Se'or and D'vash on the Mizbe'ach?

(b)And what does he learn from the word "Osam"?

(c)From where do the Rabbanan learn that?

5)

(a)In the Pasuk "ve'el ha'Mizbe'ach Lo Ya'alu", Rebbi Eliezer incorporates - the Kevesh in the prohibition of bringing Se'or and D'vash on the Mizbe'ach.

(b)And from "Osam" he precludes - Shirayim from the La'av of "ve'el ha'Mizbe'ach Lo Ya'alu'.

(c)The Rabbanan learn that too (in addition to the preclusion pf everything other than Se'or and D'vash being brought on the Mizbe'ach le'Shem Eitzim) from "Osam" (which refers to everything that is written in that Pasuk).

6)

(a)According to Rebbi Yehudah in a Beraisa, Rebbi Eliezer and the Rabbanan are arguing in a case where the limbs of a complete Olah got mixed up with those of a Ba'al-Mum. What will they both hold in a case where the limbs of ...

1. ... a Chatas became mixed up with those of an Olah (like in our Mishnah)?

2. ... a Rovei'a or a Nirva?

(b)We ask that, if Rebbi Eliezer agrees with the Chachamim that the latter are not brought on the Mizbe'ach, because the limbs of a Rovei'a and a Nirva are totally unfit, why does he argue with them with regard to the limbs of a Ba'al-Mum? By which sort of Mum does Rav Huna establish the Beraisa?

(c)And he establishes the author as Rebbi Akiva. What does Rebbi Akiva say about an animal with Dukin she'be'Ayin?

(d)How does Rav Papa establish the Beraisa, to answer the Kashya that even Rebbi Akiva only permits such an animal on the Mizbe'ach Bedi'eved, but not Lechatchilah?

6)

(a)According to Rebbi Yehudah in a Beraisa, Rebbi Eliezer and the Rabbanan are arguing in a case where the limbs of a complete Olah got mixed up with those of a Ba'al-Mum. In a case where the limbs of a Chatas became mixed up with ...

1. ... those of an Olah (like in our Mishnah) - even the Rabbanan will agree that they are all brought on the Mizbe'ach.

2. ... the limbs of a Rovei'a or a Nirva - even Rebbi Eliezer will agree that they are not.

(b)To answer the Kashya that if Rebbi Eliezer agrees with the Chachamim in the latter case, because the limbs of a Rovei'a and a Nirva are totally unfit, on what basis does he argue with them regarding the limbs of a Ba'al-Mum - Rav Huna establishes the Beraisa by Dukin she'be'Ayin (eye's web).

(c)And he establishes the author as Rebbi Akiva who maintains that - seeing as Dukin she'be'Ayin is a blemish that is not so easily recognizable, Im Alu, Lo Yerdu.

(d)And to answer the Kashya that even Rebbi Akiva only permits such an animal on the Mizbe'ach Bedi'eved, but not Lechatchilah, Rav Papa establishes the Beraisa - where the Kohanim already took the pieces on the Mizbe'ach (rendering it a case of Bedieved).

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7)

(a)We ask further, that if the Beraisa is speaking where the pieces are already on the Mizbe'ach, and the author is Rebbi Akiva, the Tana ought to be even more lenient. Why is that?

(b)We therefore conclude that Rebbi Eliezer's source (for permitting limbs of a Chatas that became mixed up with a Ba'al Mum) must be the Pasuk "Mum bam". What does he learn from there?

(c)What do the Rabbanan learn from "Mum bam"?

(d)Rebbi Eliezer learns this from the Lashon "bam", when it would have been more correct to write "bahem". What do the Rabbanan learn from "bam"/bahem?

7)

(a)We ask that, if the Beraisa is speaking where the pieces are already on the Mizbe'ach, and the author is Rebbi Akiva, the Tana ought to be even more lenient - because then they should be permitted even if they were not mixed with limbs of complete Korbanos.

(b)We therefore conclude that Rebbi Eliezer's source (for permitting limbs of a Chatas that became mixed up with a Ba'al Mum) must be the Pasuk "Mum Bam", from which he learns that - the prohibition of placing the limb of a blemished animal on the Mizbe'ach only applies when it is on its own, but not when it is mixed up with the limb of a complete animal (see Shitah Mekubetzes) ...

(c)... whereas the Rabbanan learn from "Mum bam" that - the prohibition only applies as long as the animal is actually blemished, but not once it has healed.

(d)Rebbi Eliezer learns this from the Lashon "bam", when it would have been more correct to write "bahem" - a D'rashah with which the Rabbanan do not agree.

8)

(a)How does Rebbi Eliezer's Lashon 'Ro'eh Ani es B'sar ha'Ba'alas-Mum' (in place of B'sar ha'Chatas in our Mishnah) seem to clash with his own D'rashah from "Mum bam"?

(b)How do we answer this Kashya? If Rebbi Eiezer does not need to learn it from Chatas, then why does he cite it?

(c)On what grounds do the Rabbanan then reject Rebbi Eliezer's comparison of limbs of a Ba'al Mum to limbs of a Chatas?

8)

(a)Rebbi Eliezer's Lashon 'Ro'eh Ani es B'sar ha'Ba'alas-Mum' (in place of B'sar ha'Chatas in our Mishnah) seems to clash with his own D'rashah from "Mum bam" - since the former is learned from Rebbi Eliezer's comparison between the limbs of a Ba'al Mum and those of a Chatas, whereas the latter learns it directly from the Pasuk "Mum bam".

(b)We answer that Rebbi Eliezer himself learns it from "Mum bam", as we just explained, and he only cites the Limud from Chatas - in order to convince the Rabbanan (who do not agree with the D'rashah "Mum bam") to concede that he is right, by comparing Ba'al-Mum to Chatas.

(c)The Rabbanan reject Rebbi Eliezer's comparison of limbs of a Ba'al Mum to limbs of a Chatas however - because they argue, it is disgusting to bring limbs of a Ba'al-Mum on the Mizbe'ach in any manner, which is not the case with limbs of a Chatas.

9)

(a)What does Rebbi Eliezer rule in our Mishnah, in a case where limbs of complete animals became mixed up with limbs of Ba'alei-Mumin, and one of the heads is sacrificed?

(b)Why is that?

(c)What do the Rabbanan go so far as to say?

(d)What will Rebbi Eliezer say in such a case?

9)

(a)Rebbi Eliezer rules in our Mishnah, in a case where limbs of complete animals became mixed up with limbs of Ba'alei-Mumin, that, if one of the heads is sacrificed - the Kohanim are permitted to bring all the other heads ...

(b)... because we assume the one that was brought to have been the one that is Asur.

(c)The Rabbanan go so far as to say that - even if all the heads but one were brought, the last one must go to the Beis ha'Sereifah.

(d)Rebbi Eliezer - permits it too, to be brought on the Mizbe'ach.

10)

(a)According to Rebbi Elazar, Rebbi Eliezer only permits the heads to be brought two at a time (but not one by one). Why is that?

(b)Rebbi Ya'akov asked Rebbi Yirmiyah bar Tachlifa how Rebbi Elazar will reconcile his statement with the Seifa 'Afilu Karvu Kulan Chutz me'Echad meihen ... '. What did he reply?

10)

(a)According to Rebbi Elazar, Rebbi Eliezer only permits the heads to be brought two at a time (but not one by one) - because we can then assume that just as the one is definitely not a Ba'al-Mum, neither is the other.

(b)Rebbi Ya'akov asked Rebbi Yirmiyah bar Tachlifa how Rebbi Elazar will reconcile his statement with the Seifa 'Afilu Karvu Kulan Chutz me'Echad meihen ... '. He replied that - by Echad the Tana means Zug Echad (one pair).

11)

(a)Our Mishnah now discusses blood of Korbanos that has been mixed with other liquids. Up to which stage is it still considered blood (and may be sprinkled) if it is mixed with ...

1. ... water?

2. ... wine?

3. ... the blood of Beheimos or Chayos?

(b)Rebbi Yehudah disagrees with the latter ruling. What does he say?

11)

(a)Our Mishnah now discusses blood of Korbanos that has been mixed with other liquids. If it is mixed with ...

1. ... water, it is still considered blood (and may be sprinkled) - provided it still resembles blood.

2. ... wine - it is still considered blood, provided, assuming that the wine was water, it would resemble blood, and the same will apply if it was mixed with ...

3. ... the blood of Beheimos or Chayos.

(b)Rebbi Yehudah disagrees with the latter ruling. In his opinion - blood is never Mevatel blood (in which case it can always be sprinkled).

12)

(a)What does the Mishnah say in a case where the blood became mixed up with Pasul blood?

(b)The same applies if it became mixed with Dam ha'Tamtzis. What is Dam ha'Tamtzis?

(c)Rebbi Eliezer permits sprinkling blood that was mixed with Dam ha'Tamtzis. To what extent does the Tana Kama agree with him?

12)

(a)In a case where the blood became mixed up with Pasul blood, the Mishnah rules that - the mixture must be poured into the Amah (the stream that flows through the Azarah).

(b)The same applies to Dam ha'Tamtzis - the blood that drizzles out of the neck after the animal has been Shechted, rather than pouring out in a jet.

(c)Rebbi Eliezer permits sprinkling blood that was mixed with Dam ha'Tamtzis - and the Tana Kama agrees with him Bedi'eved, that if the Kohen h alas already sprinkled it, it is Kasher (as will be explained in the Sugya).

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