1)
(a)We already explained the reason of the Chachamim as to why a Chatas whose blood is taken into the Heichal exclusively is Pasul. Rav Yehudah Amar Shmuel bases Rebbi Akiva's opinion on a Mashal. If a Talmid was diluting wine with hot water, and his Rebbe asked him to dilute him a drink with hot water, what would he mean by that?
(b)What is then the Nimshal? How will it explain Rebbi Akiva's opinion in the Mishnah?
(c)Why does the Torah find it necessary to specifically include a Chatas? Why would we have otherwise that one is Patur?
1)
(a)We already explained the reason of the Chachamim as to why a Chatas whose blood is taken into the Heichal exclusively is Pasul. Rav Yehudah Amar Shmuel bases Rebbi Akiva's opinion on a parable. If a Talmid was diluting wine with hot water, and his Rebbe asked him to dilute him a drink with hot water - he would mean to present him with a choice of diluting it with whatever he pleased, with cold water as well as with hot water.
(b)In the same way, said Rebbi Akiva - seeing as the Parshah is speaking about a Chatas, when it writes "ve'Chatas asher Yuva es Damah ... ", it comes to prohibit the blood of all Korbanos that are taken into the Heichal, including that of a Chatas.
(c)The Torah finds it necessary to specifically include the blood of a Chatas - because we would otherwise have precluded it from the prohibition, due to the precedent of Chata'os Penimi'os, whose blood is taken into the Heichal Lechatchilah.
2)
(a)What problem does Rav Huna b'rei de'Rav Yehoshua have with this explanation, bearing in mind that the Torah has already included all Kodshim in the Din of Merikah and Sh'tifah (boiling and washing pots in hot water to remove what they have absorbed and rinsing them)?
(b)What must the Torah then be coming to teach us?
(c)And what should the Mashal then have been?
2)
(a)Bearing in mind that the Torah has already included all Kodshim in the Din of Merikah and Sh'tifah' (boiling and washing pots in hot water to remove what they have absorbed and rinsing them) Rav Huna b'rei de'Rav Yehoshua asks that - in that case, the Torah ought to have omitted the word "Chatas", and written 've'Im Yuva mi'Damah'. Since it inserts it ...
(b)... it must becoming to teach us - that one is Chayav for a Chatas exclusively.
(c)And the Mashal should have been - that of a Talmid who is diluting wine with both hot and cold water (since the Parshah of Chatas in question is only one of many Korbanos that are discussed in Tzav), when his master asks him to dilute his drink with hot water, in which case he expects hot water exclusively.
3)
(a)We therefore retract from the above Limud and cite Rebbi Akiva's source from the same Pasuk ("ve'Chol Chatas asher Yuva mi'Damah ... "). What does he learn from ...
1. ... the word "(ve')Chol"?
2. ... the 'Vav'?
(b)According to Rebbi Yossi ha'Gelili, the Torah restricts the prohibition to Chata'os. What does he then learn from ...
1. ... "ve'Chol Chatas"?
2. ... the 'Vav' in "ve'chol" (according to the initial text)?
(c)On what grounds do we object to the initial version of Rebbi Yossi ha'Gelili's statement?
(d)So what is the correct version of Rebbi Yossi ha'Gelili's statement?
3)
(a)We therefore retract from the above Limud and cite Rebbi Akiva's source from the same Pasuk ("ve'Chol Chatas asher Yuva mi'Damah ... "). From ...
1. ... the word "(ve')Chol", he learns that - all Kodshei Kodshim are included.
2. ... the 'Vav' - he incorporates even Kodshim Kalim.
(b)According to Rebbi Yossi ha'Gelili, the Torah restricts the prohibition to Chata'os. From ...
1. ... "ve'Chol Chatas" he includes - Chatas Tzibur (since the Parshah of Chatas in Tzav is dealing with a Chatas Yachid).
2. ... the 'Vav' in "ve'Chol" he learns (according to the initial text) that - a Chatas Nekeivah) of a Yachid) is also included.
(c)We object to this however - because a regular Chatas is a Nekeivah, and not a Zachar (so why have we switched the sequence?
(d)The correct version of Rebbi Yossi ha'Gelili's statement therefore is that - the 'Vav' comes to include a Chatas Zachar.
4)
(a)In another Beraisa, Rebbi Yossi ha'Gelili establishes the current Pasuk by Chata'os ha'Penimiyos. What does he learn from ...
1. ... "ba'Kodesh ba'Eish Tisaref"?
2. ... "Lo Se'achel" (which precedes it)?
(b)In answer to the Rabbanan's query, what does he extrapolate from the Pasuk in Shemini (in connection with the Sa'ir Chatas of Rosh Chodesh that Aharon burned) "Hein Lo Huva es Damah el ha'Kodesh Penimah"?
4)
(a)In another Beraisa, Rebbi Yossi ha'Gelili establishes the current Pasuk by Chata'os ha'Penimi'os. He learns from ...
1. ... "ba'Kodesh ba'Eish Tisaref" that - once Chata'os Penimi'os become Pasul, they must be burned in the Heichal.
2. ... "Lo Se'achel" (which precedes it) that - someone who eats them (even if they are Kasher) transgresses a La'av.
(b)In answer to the Rabbanan's query, he extrapolates from the Pasuk (in connection with the Sa'ir Chatas of Rosh Chodesh that Aharon burned) "Hein Lo Huva es Damah el ha'Kodesh Penimah" that - a Chatas whose blood is taken into the Kodesh is Pasul.
5)
(a)What is the status of a Chatas whose blood is received in two cups?
(b)What does our Mishnah say about such a Chatas, if one of the cups is then taken outside the Azarah?
(c)If it is taken into the Heichal, Rebbi Yossi ha'Gelili declares it Kasher. What does one do with the remaining blood, in both of these cases?
(d)What do the Chachamim say in the latter case?
5)
(a)A Chatas whose blood is received in two cups - is Kasher.
(b)Our Mishnah rules that in such a case, if one of the cups is then taken outside the Azarah - the Korban remains Kasher.
(c)If it is taken into the Heichal, Rebbi Yossi ha'Gelili declares it Kasher. In both of these cases - the remaining blood is sprinkled in the conventional manner.
(d)According to the Chachamim - the Korban in the latter case, is Pasul.
6)
(a)What is the difference between a Kohen who has a Machsheves Chutz (with regard to the blood of a Korban), and one who has a Machseves P'nim?
(b)How does Rebbi Yossi ha'Gelili prove his ruling from there (via a Kal-va'Chomer)?
(c)According to Rebbi Eliezer, the Korban becomes Pasul as soon as the Kohen takes some of the blood into the Heichal. What does Rebbi Shimon say?
(d)On what condition does Rebbi Yehudah declare the Korban Kasher, even if the Kohen sprinkled the blood there?
6)
(a)If a Kohen has a Machsheves Chutz (with regard to the blood of a Korban) - the Korban is Pasul, whereas if he has a Machsheves P'nim - it is Kasher.
(b)Rebbi Yossi ha'Gelili proves his ruling from there - by Darshening that if taking some of the blood to a location where a Machshavah would render the Korban Pasul, does not render it Pasul, then taking it to a location where it would not, should certainly not do so.
(c)According to Rebbi Eliezer, the Korban becomes Pasul as soon as the Kohen takes some of the blood into the Heichal. Rebbi Shimon maintains that - it only becomes Pasul once the Kohen actually performs the Matanos.
(d)Rebbi Yehudah declares the Korban Kasher, even if the Kohen sprinkled the blood there - provided he did so be'Shogeg.
7)
(a)The Tzitz atones for the P'sul of Tum'ah. Does it also atone for other Pesulim that belong to the category of Im Alu, Lo Yerdu?
(b)What do the Rabbanan of Rebbi Yossi ha'Gelili learn from the 'Mem' of "mi'Damah" (in the Pasuk "asher Yuva mi'Damah")?
(c)What does Rebbi Yossi ha'Gelili then try to learn with regard to where some of the blood is taken outside the Azarah (using reverse logic)?
(d)How do the Rabbanan counter this from the word "Yuva"?
7)
(a)The Tzitz atones for the P'sul of Tum'ah - but not for any other type of P'sul, even if they belong to the category of 'Im Alu, Lo Yerdu'.
(b)The Rabbanan of Rebbi Yossi learn from the 'Mem' of "mi'Damah" (in the Pasuk "asher Yuva mi'Damah")that - even if some of the blood is taken into the Heichal, the Korban becomes Pasul.
(c)Using reverse logic, Rebbi Yossi then tries to learn that if some of the blood is taken outside the Azarah - it too, should render the Korban, Pasul.
(d)The Rabbanan counter this however, from the word "Yuva" - which implies that it renders the Korban Pasul only when it is taken inside, but not when it is taken outside.
8)
(a)On what basis does Rebbi Yossi ha'Gelili then persist that a Machsheves P'nim should render the Korban Pasul?
(b)What do the Rabbanan mean when, in response, they quote the Pasuk in Tzav "ba'Yom ha'Shelishi"?
(c)And what do the Rabbanan learn from the Pasuk in Tzav ...
1. ... "Shelishi"?
2. ... "Pigul"?
(d)What would we otherwise have thought?
8)
(a)In that case, Rebbi Yossi ha'Gelili persists, let a Machsheves P'nim render the Korban Pasul - Kal va'Chomer from Machsheves Chutz, where a Korban is not invalidated, like it is bi'Fenim.
(b)When, in response, the Rabbanan quote the Pasuk "ba'Yom ha'Shelishi" they mean that - from there we learn that Machsheves Chutz li'Mekomo only invalidates a Korban there where the three things are to be found, Dam, Basar and Emurim (to preclude in the Heichal, where the Basar and Emurim do not enter).
(c)The Rabbanan learn from the Pasuk ...
1. ... "Shelishi" - the P'sul of Chutz li'Zemano.
2. ... "Pigul" - that of Chutz li'Mekomo (outside the Azarah), in this case.
(d)We would otherwise have thought that - it will not become Pasul with a Machsheves Chutz li'Mekomo, Kal va'Chomer from Machsheves P'nim.
9)
(a)What is the difference between Basar that is taken outside the Azarah and Basar that is taken into the Heichal?
(b)We learn this from "mi'Damah", 've'Lo mi'Besarah'. What would we otherwise have assumed?
(c)In that case, using reverse logic, Basar that is taken outside the Azarah, should certainly be Kasher. From where do we then know that it is not?
9)
(a)Basar that is taken outside the Azarah is Pasul - whereas Basar that is taken into the Heichal is Kasher.
(b)We learn this latter ruling from "mi'Damah", 've'Lo mi'Besarah'. Otherwise, we would have assumed - that it is Pasul, 'Kal va'Chomer from Basar that is taken outside.
(c)In that case, using reverse logic, Basar that is taken outside the Azarah, should certainly be Kasher. We know that it is not - from the Pasuk "u'Basar ba'Sadeh T'reifah Lo Socheilu" (which teaches us that Basar that leaves its boundaries becomes Pasul).
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10)
(a)In the Pasuk in Shemini "Hein Lo Huva es Damo el ha'Kodesh Penimah", what does the Beraisa learn from the word ...
1. ... "Penimah"?
2. ... "Kodesh"?
(b)What problem do we have with this?
(c)Rabah answers the Kashya by citing another Beraisa. The Torah writes in Emor "Toshav Kohen ve'Sachir Lo Yochal Kodesh (Terumah)". What is the difference between "Toshav" and "Sachir"?
(d)Having stated that a Toshav may not eat Terumah, why did the Torah find it necessary to add "Sachir"?
10)
(a)In the Pasuk in Shemini "Hein Lo Huva es Damo el ha'Kodesh Penimah", the Beraisa learns from the word ...
1. ... "Penimah" that - the blood of the Chatas Rosh Chodesh was not taken into the D'vir (the Kodesh Kodshim), and from ...
2. ... "Kodesh" that - it was not taken into the Heichal either.
(b)The problem with this is that - having stated that the blood was not taken into the Heichal, why did Aharon need to even mention that it was not taken into the D'vir?
(c)Rabah answers the Kashya by citing another Beraisa. The Torah writes in Emor "Toshav Kohen ve'Sachir Lo Yochal Kodesh" ( Terumah). "Toshav" - is an Eved Ivri who has had his ear pierced, and who continues to serve until the Yovel - whereas "Sachir" is an Eved Ivri during the first six years (whose status is more temporary).
(d)Despite having stated "Toshav", the Torah finds it necessary to add "Sachir" - because had it not written it, we would have interpreted "Toshav" to mean an Eved during the first six years (in which case we would not have known that the prohibition extends to the current interpretation of "Toshav").
11)
(a)How does Rabah now apply the same S'vara to "Kodesh" and "Penimah"?
(b)On what grounds does Abaye object to Rabah's proof? What is the underlying principle that explains why the Torah inserts "Sachir"?
(c)Why will it not help us to understand why the Torah inserts "Penimah"?
(d)How does Abaye himself resolve the problem? What is Derech Meshupat?
11)
(a)Rabah now applies the same S'vara to "Kodesh" and "Penimah" in that - had the Torah not written "Penimah", we would have interpreted "Kodesh" to mean the D'vir.
(b)Abaye objects to Rabah's proof however, on the grounds that - the underlying principle that explains why the Torah inserts "Sachir" is (not because it is included in "Toshav", but) because if Reuven (Mr. Kohen's Toshav) is forbidden to eat Terumah, then 'Kal va'Chomer' Shimon (his Sachir). Nevertheless, the Torah does not hesitate to write both, because of the principle Milsa de'Asya be'Kal va'Chomer, Tarach ve'Kasav lah K'ra ...
(c)... which will not help us to understand why the Torah inserts "Penimah" - because there it is the same piece of meat, which, seeing as it did not enter the Heichal, cannot possibly have entered the D'vir. The question therefore remains, why, now that we know Heichal, why the Torah mention D'vir?
(d)Abaye himself resolves the problem - by raising the possibility of having brought the piece of Chatas into the D'vir via the roofs and attics (Derech Meshupat), without having taken it through the Heichal (rendering it similar to the case of "Toshav" and "Sachir").
12)
(a)Rava however, rejects Abaye's answer, based on the Lashon Hava'ah ("Hein Lo Huva ... ") that the Torah uses. What does Hava'ah imply?
(b)So how does Rava explain the Torah's insertion of the word "Penimah"?
12)
(a)Rava however, rejects Abaye's answer, based on the Lashon 'Hava'ah' ("Hein Lo Huva ... ") that the Torah uses - which implies being taken there via the regular route.
(b)So Rava explains that the Torah inserts the word "Penimah" - to teach us that if the Kohen intends to take a piece of Korban into the D'vir, he is not Chayav until he actually gets there. Consequently, if he is standing in the Heichal holding it, when he changes his mind and retraces his steps, he will be Patur (turning D'vir into a case that is independent from Heichal).
13)
(a)In what way do the Par He'elam Davar shel Tzibur and the Sa'ir Avodas-Kochavim differ from other Chata'os?
(b)Why does Rava therefore think that maybe the Kohen is not Chayav for taking their blood into the D'vir?
(c)Why might he nevertheless be Chayav?
(d)This S'vara might also apply, Rava continues, to the blood of the Par and Sa'ir of Yom ha'Kipurim, which the Kohen Gadol sprinkles between the poles of the Aron, and then takes back into the D'vir, after having concluded the Avodah in the Heichal (seeing as he has finished with the Avodas ha'Devir). Why may he nevertheless be Patur?
13)
(a)The Par He'elam Davar shel Tzibur and the Sa'ir Avodas-Kochavim differ from other Chata'os - inasmuch as their blood is sprinkled in the Heichal, and not in the Azarah.
(b)Rava therefore thinks that maybe the Kohen is not Chayav for taking their blood into the D'vir - because the Chiyuv for taking it into the Heichal does not apply to them, and (seeing as the Torah writes both "Kodesh" and "Penimah"), perhaps the Kohen is only Chayav where both are applicable.
(c)He might nevertheless be Chayav - since, when all's said and done, the D'vir is not their location (so why should the fact that the Heichal is, detract from the Chiyuv).
(d)This S'vara might also apply, Rava continues, to the blood of the Par and Sa'ir of Yom Kipur which the Kohen Gadol sprinkled between the poles of the Aron, and then took back into the D'vir, after having concluded the Avodah in the Heichal (seeing as he has finished with the Avodas ha'D'vir). He may nevertheless be Patur - because we might apply the S'vara 'once their place, always their place'.
14)
(a)What does the Kohen Gadol do with the blood of the Par and of the Sa'ir of Yom Kipur after sprinkling it towards the Paroches?
(b)Assuming that he is Chayav in the previous case, Rava finally asks what the Din will be if the Kohen Gadol takes the blood back from the Mizbe'ach ha'Zahav to the Paroches. Why ...
1. ... on the one hand, should he definitely be Patur?
2. ... on the other, might he be Chayav there too?
(c)What is the outcome of all these She'eilos?
14)
(a)After sprinkling the blood of the Par and of the Sa'ir of Yom Kipur towards the Paroches - the Kohen Gadol - sprinkles it on the Mizbe'ach ha'Zahav.
(b)Assuming that he is Chayav in the previous case, Rava finally asks what the Din will be if the Kohen Gadol takes the blood back from the Mizbe'ach ha'Zahav to the Paroches. On the ...
1. ... one hand, he should definitely be Patur - since he has not moved out of the Azarah.
2. ... other, he might be Chayav there too - since he is obligated to place the blood on the far side of the Mizbe'ach (with the Mizbe'ach between him and the Paroches), transforming the two locations into two different domains.
(c)The outcome of all these She'eilos is - Teiku (Tishbi Yetaretz Kushyos ve'Ibayos).