פרק הלוקח פירות
PEREK HALOKEACH PEIROS
1)

TRUSTING AN AM HA'ARETZ ON SHABBOS (Yerushalmi Demai Perek 4 Halachah 1 Daf 16b)

[דף לג עמוד א (עוז והדר)] משנה הלוקח פירות ממי שאינו נאמן על המעשרות ושכח לעשרן שואלו בשבת ואוכל על פיו חשיכה מוצאי שבת לא יאכל עד שיעשר

(a)

(Mishnah): One who buys produce from one who is not trusted for Maaseros and he forgot to tithe them, he may ask the seller on Shabbos and eat according to his answer. But once Shabbos ends, he may not eat until he tithes.

תרומת מעשר של דמאי שחזרה למקומה רבי שמעון השזורי אומר אף בחול שואלו ואוכל על פיו:

(b)

If Terumas Maaser that was separated from Demai became mixed into the original pile (so that there is no way to be able to eat it now), R. Shimon Shazuri says that even during the week, he may ask the seller if it was tithed and can rely on him to eat it.

גמרא חברייא בשם רבי יוחנן מפני כבוד שבת התירו.

(c)

(Gemara) (Chevraya citing R. Yochanan): They permitted trusting the seller on Shabbos in honor of Shabbos.

אם מפני כבוד שבת למה לי שואלו

(d)

Question: If so, since he isn't trusted, why even ask him?

ע''י עילה

(e)

Answer: (By asking him) it gives a pretext to allow it.

ר' ביבי בשם רבי חנינא אימת שבת עליו והוא אומר אמת

(f)

(R. Baybei citing R. Chanina): The fear of Shabbos is upon the seller and he will tell the truth.

ואם אימת שבת עליו בדה תנינן חשיכה מוצאי שבת לא יאכל עד שיעשר

(g)

Question: If he told the truth, why does the Mishnah teach that after Shabbos he must tithe to eat?

מפני אחד שאין אימת שבת עליו

(h)

Answer: Because of the one person who does not have the fear of Shabbos on him, we cannot rely on his word after Shabbos.

תני שואלו בחול לא יאכל בשבת.

(i)

Baraisa: If he asked him on a weekday, he may not eat it on Shabbos.

מ''ד אימת שבת עליו ניחא מ''ד מפני כבוד שבת אפילו שואלו בחול יאכל בשבת.

(j)

Question: According to the opinion that 'the fear of Shabbos is upon him', it is fine; according to the opinion that it is in honor of Shabbos, even if he asked him during the week, he should be able to eat them..?

[דף לג עמוד ב (עוז והדר)] לא אמר אלא שוגג הא מזיד אסור דתנינן שכח לעשרן

(k)

Answer: Permission was only give if it was unintentionally left, as the Mishnah taught, "If he forgot to tithe them''.

כשאין עמו תנאי אבל אם יש עמו תנאי אוכל על תנאו

(l)

He may only eat from the fruits if he did not stipulate (before Shabbos that if he forgets to tithe, they should be tithed from then); but if he did, he can eat based on the stipulation.

מהו שיאכל על שאילת חבירו

(m)

Question: Could a person eat based on another's question?

היאך עבידא לקחו ממנו שני בני אדם כא' שאלו על אחת מהן השני לא יאכל עד שיעשר ועד שישאלנו אני אומר של זה עישר ושל זה לא עישר

1.

What's the case? If two people bought from the seller at the same time and one of them asked about the nature of the produce, the second person cannot eat until he tithes or himself asks the seller - as I say that perhaps the seller tithed this one's but not that one's.

[דף יז עמוד א] לקח ממנו אדם א' שתי כלכלות כאחת שאלו על אחת מהן השניי' לא יאכל עד שיעשר ועד שישאלנו אני אומר זה עישר וזה אינו עישר

2.

If one person bought two baskets at the same time and he asked about one, he may not eat from the other until he tithes or asks about it - as I say that he tithed the first basket but not the second one.

חשכה מוצ''ש מעשר מזה על זה

(n)

The Mishnah taught: But once Shabbos ends, he may not eat until he tithes one for the other.

מ''ד מפני כבוד שבת ניחא ומ''ד מפני שאימת שבת עליו למה מעשר מזה על זה

(o)

Question: According the one who said it's in honor of Shabbos, it is fine (as he was never believed that it was already tithed); but according to the one who said that the fear of Shabbos is upon him (and he truthfully said that the first basket was tithed), how could he tithe one for the other (since he is separating from that which is exempt for that which is obligated)? (The Gemara leaves this question unanswered.)

עד כדון בשאין לו מאותו המין אבל יש לו מאותו המין היצר תאוב

(p)

The Mishnah only permitted him to eat based on the seller's words when he doesn't have other tithed produce of the same sort, but if he does, despite this, since a person desires to eat what is forbidden to him, in honor of Shabbos, he is permitted to eat it.