TOSFOS DH ELA LA'AV REBBI YEHOSHUA HI VE'KATANI B'CHAMISHAH HA'ALAMOS CHAYAV CHAMISHAH CHATA'OS
úåñ' ã"ä àìà ìàå øáé éäåùò äéà å÷úðé áä' äòìîåú çééá ä' çèàåú
(Summary: Tosfos explains why the Gemara does not bring the proof from the Reisha.)
îùîò ããå÷à äòìîåú îçì÷éï.
Clarification: This implies that specifically Ha'alamos divide.
åôø"é ãä"ä ãîöé ìàúåéé îøéùà 'ä' çúéëåú îä' úîçåééï îæáç àçã, àéðå çééá àìà àçú' ...
Implied Question: The Ri explains that the Gemara could just as well have cited the Reisha which states 'Five pieces from five dishes from the same Korban is Chayav only one Chatas' ...
ãäà áîúðé' ðîé îãîé úîçåééï... ìæáçéí
Implied Question (cont.): Seeing as the Mishnah compares 'dishes' to Korbanos ...
àìà îùåí ãúîçåééï ìà äåä äáòéà, ìà ð÷è ìéä.
Answer: Only since the She'eilah was not about 'dishes', it did not do so.
TOSFOS DH AFILU TEIMA REBBI AKIVA HI
úåñ' ã"ä àôéìå úéîà ø"ò äéà
(Summary: Tosfos clarifies the authorship of 'Chamishah Zevachim be'He'elam Echad ... '.)
å'ä' æáçéí áäòìí àçú çééá òì ëì àçú åàçú' ìàå ø"ò àìà ø' éäåùò.
Clarification: And the author of the Beraisa that rules that 'One is Chayav five Chata'os for five Korbanos in one He'elam' is not Rebbi Akiva but Rebbi Yehoshua.
TOSFOS DH B'KATEF SHEL OLAH
úåñ' ã"ä áëúó ùì òåìä
(Summary: Tosfos clarifies this.)
éù áä æ' òöîåú.
Clarification: It has seven bones.
TOSFOS DH B'CHAMISHAH MIYNEI KEDEIROS
úåñ' ã"ä áä' îéðé ÷ãéøä
(Summary: Tosfos clarifies the difference between 'five kinds of dishes' and 'five kinds of tastes'.
ôø"é ëâåï öìé åîáåùì åèéâåï åöìé ÷ãø åëáåù ...
The Five Dishes: The Ri explains this as roasted, cooked, fried, pot-roasted and pickled ...
å'ä' îéðé èòîéí' ëâåï ôéìôìéï åæðâáéìà å÷ðä å÷ðîåï å÷ãä.
The Five Tastes: And 'five kinds of tastes' as 'pepper, ginger, calamus, cinnamon and cassia.
åøù"é ìà ôéøù àéôëà.
A Different Opinion: Rashi however, learns the other way round.
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TOSFOS DH AMAR RABAH MISTAVRA ETC. U'PASHAT LEIH D'SHABASOS KI GUFIN DAMYAN ETC.
úåñ' ã"ä àîø øáä îñúáøà ëå', åôùè ìéä ãùáúåú ëé âåôéï ãîééï ëå'
(Summary: Tosfos reconciles this with a statement that he made earlier.)
åàí úàîø, ÷ùéà ãøáä ãøáä...
Question #1: This creates a contradiction in two statements of Rabah ...
ùäøé øáä ÷àîø ìòéì ìø"à ã÷öø å÷öø îçééá úøúé àôé' áùáú àçú...
Question #1 (cont.): Since Rabah himself said earlier that, according to Rebbi Eliezer that someone who reaped twice, even on the same Shabbos, is Chayav two Chata'os ...
åà"ë, ìîä öøéê ùáúåú ëâåôéï ãîééï?
Question #1 (concl.): In that case, why is it necessary to say that Shabasos are like Gufin?
åëï áðãä, îàé ðô÷à ìéä îéðéä îâåôéï îåçì÷éï, äà ø"à îçééá òì ëì áéàä åáéàä?
Question #2: And similarly by Nidah, what is the significance of Gufin Muchlakin to him, seeing as Rebbi Eliezer is Mechayev on each and every Bi'ah?
åé"ì, ãø"à äùéá ìø"ò ìôé ãáøé øáé ò÷éáà.
Answer: Rebbi Eliezer answered Rebbi Akiva according to Rebbi Akiva's opinion (not according to his own).
TOSFOS DH DI'TENAN K'LAL GADOL ETC. ELA P'SHITA REBBI AKIVA HI U'SHEMA MINA YAMIM SHE'BEINTAYIM ETC.
úåñ' ã"ä ãúðï ëìì âãåì ëå' àìà ôùéèà ø"ò äéà åù"î éîéí ùáéðúéí ëå'
(Summary: Tosfos explains why Rabah declines to learn like Abaye.)
åà"ú, îàé ôùéèà ìéä ìäáéà øàéä ìãáøéå ,ãéìîà ëã÷àîø àáéé ?
Question: Why is so obvious to him to be bring a proof for his opinion from there? Perhaps the P'shat is like Abaye?
åé"ì, ãñáø øáä ëéåï ãîéáòéà ìéä áåìãé îìàëåú ãäééðå -äòåùä îìàëåú äøáä îòéï îìàëä àçú, îéáòéà ìéä ðîé à'ááà äñîåëä ìä ...
Answer: Rabah holds that, since he asked the She'eilah concerning V'ladei Melachos - i.e. 'If someone performs many Melachos that are like one Melachah', he will also have asked on the case that follows it ...
ãäééðå éåãò ùäåà ùáú, åòùä îìàëåú äøáä -ãäééðå æãåï ùáú åùââú îìàëåú, àé ùáúåú ëâåôéï ãîééï àå ìà.
Answer (cont.): Namely, that of 'Someone who, knowing that it is Shabbos, performed many Melachos' - which is equivalent to Zadon Shabbos ve'Shig'gas Melachos' - as to whether Shabbasos are like Gufin or not.
TOSFOS DH RAV CHISDA AMAR ETC. U'PASHAT LEIH YAMIM SHE'BEINTAYIM HAVYAN YEDI'AH L'CHALEK ETC.
úåñ' ã"ä øá çñãà àîø ëå' åôùè ìéä éîéí ùáéðúééí äåééï éãéòä ìçì÷ ëå'
(Summary: Tosfos clarifies Rav Chisda's statement.)
ëãîééúé øàéä îðãä, àáì ìà î÷"å ...
Clarification: Like the proof that he brings from Nidah but not from the Kal va'Chomer ...
ãäà àåúéá ø"ò òì ä÷"å...
Question #1 (cont.): Since Rabah himself said earlier that, according to Rebbi Eliezer that someone who reaped twice, even on the same Shabbos, is Chayav two Chata'os ...
àáì ååìãé îìàëåú ëîìàëåú àîø ìéä î÷áìä çééá òì ëì àçú åàçú'.
Clarification (concl.): But V'ladei Melachos ki'Melachos he said to him from tradition that one is Chayav on each one.
TOSFOS DH AMAR RAV CHISDA MINA AMINA LAH D'SANYA HA'KOSEV ETC. U'MODEH RABAN GAMLIEL SHE'IM KASAV ETC. PATUR
úåñ' ã"ä àîø øá çñãà îðà àîéðà ìä ãúðéà äëåúá ëå' åîåãä ø"â ùàí ëúá ëå' ôèåø
(Summary: Tosfos clarifies Rav Chisda's proof.)
îäê ìáã ìà îöé îééúé ãùáúåú ëâåôéï, îãçæéðï ãôèåø ...
Clarification: From this case alone - from the fact that he is Patur, one cannot prove that Shabasos are like Gufin ...
ãàéëà ìîéîø ãîééøé áùââú ùáú åæãåï îìàëåú, åìëê ôèåø, ã'éîéí ùáðúééí äåéà éãéòä ìçì÷... '
Reason: Since the reason that he is Patur may well be because it is speaking in a case of Shig'gas Shabbos and Zadon Melachos, due to the fact that 'the days in between are a Yedi'ah to divide'.
ãàó òì âá ãø' âîìéàì ÷àîø 'àéï éãéòä ìçöé ùéòåø ëéãéòä' ...
Implied Question: Because even though Rabah Gamliel holds that 'A Yedi'ah of Chatzi Shi'ur is not considered a Yedi'ah' ...
àìîà éãéòä ëé ääéà îçì÷...
Answer: Implying that a Yedi'ah like that divides ...
ãàéëà ìçì÷ áéï éãéòä ì'éîéí ùáéðúééí... '
Reason: Since one can draw a distinction between a Yei'ah and 'the days in between' ...
åáéîéí ùáéðúééí îåãä ãàéðä îöèøôú.
Answer (cont.): And he concedes that by the days in between he concedes that they do not combine ...
ìëê öøéê ìäáéà áøééúà àçøú ùæãåï ùáú éù çùéáåú ìùáúåú ìäéåú ëâåôéï îùââú ùáú.
Conclusion: That explains why he needs to bring another Beraisa to prove that Zadon Shabbos has a Chashivas for Shabbasos to be considered like Gufin more than Shig'gas Shabbos (According to the text of the Olas Shabbos; see also Shitah Mekubetzes 24)).
TOSFOS DH V'TANYA ACHRITI ETC.
úåñ' ã"ä åúðéà àçøéúé ëå'
(Summary: Tosfos clarifies the proof.)
äà ãúðéà 'ôèåø' áæãåï ùáú åùââú îìàëåú...
Clarification: The Beraisa that says 'Patur' is speaking about Zadon Shabbos and Shig'gas Melachos ...
ãëéåï ãùáúåú ëâåôéï ãîééï âáé æãåï ùáú åùââú îìàëåú, (ãëéåï ãùáúåú ëâåôéï ãîééï) ä"ì ëòåùä á' çöàé îìàëåú ùàéðï ãåîåú æå ìæå áäòìí àçú, ùôèåø îëìåí.
Clarification (cont.): Because since the Shabbasos by Zadon Shabbos and Shig'gas Melachos are like Gufin, it is akin to performing two half-Melachos which are not similar to one another in one He'elam, where one is completely Patur (See Shitah Mekubetzes 26).