Question: According to the Havah Amina that we do not discuss new Kohanim, this is astounding that we do not ask from the Reisha, which taught Kidush of one who does Terumas ha'Deshen!

Answer: It is obvious that the case of Terumas ha'Deshen refers to new Kohanim.

Question: What was the Havah Amina that [the Seifa] does not discuss new [Kohanim]? Our Mishnah in Tamid (33a) connotes that all of them were new, for the Azarah was locked and they came from where they were sleeping in Beis ha'Mokad!

Comment - Answer: One might have thought that the one who does not disqualify due to Linah, he does not disqualify due to Hesech Da'as, and the one who disqualifies for this, disqualifies for this;

These Kohanim had Hesech Da'as, since they were sleeping in Beis ha'Mokad. Until here is a comment.

Explanation (Rashi): [We ask whether Yetzi'ah disqualifies Kidush] like it disqualifies all Kodshim that became Kodesh in a Kli, that if they left [the Azarah], they are Pasul due to Yotzei.

Rebuttal: You cannot say so. Rather, it is like [the Gemara] explains the reason. Since he separated (left the Azarah), he diverted his mind from [Avodah]. We are thinking that the one who does not disqualify due to Linah, he disqualifies due to Hesech Da'as.

However, due to Kidush in a Kli, [Kodshim] are not disqualified through Yotzei for something with which Avodah was not yet done, like is proven in Menachos (9a);

It says that if he mixed [the flour and oil] outside the wall of the Azarah, R. Yochanan disqualifies and Reish Lakish is Machshir;

Inference: R. Yochanan disqualifies only due to Avodah outside, but not due to Yetzi'ah.

Support #1: It connotes like this also in Menachos (47a) regarding Shtei ha'Lechem. It becomes Kodesh, to be disqualified through Yotzei, only through Shechitah of the Zevach (Shalmei Tzibur), even though it already became Kodesh in a Kli;

Rebbi holds that the oven is Mekadesh in Menachos (72b).

Rebuttal: We can reject this. What comes with the Zevach is different, for Nesachim that come with the Zevach are disqualified through Linah only [after] Shechitah of the Zevach, like Ze'iri said there (79a);

Whereas [Menachos] that come by themselves, a Mishnah teaches that if they were Hukdash in a Kli, they are disqualified through Linah.

Support #2: Also, a Mishnah in Me'ilah (9a) teaches that if Menachos or Shtei ha'Lechem formed a crust in the oven, they are Huchshar to become Pasul through a Mechusar Kipurim or Linah. It does not list Yotzei!

Implied question: Regarding birds and Zevachim it could have taught [that they are disqualified also through] Yotzei!

Answer: Due to others it did not teach [Yotzei, i.e.] due to Shtei ha'Lechem and Lechem ha'Panim and Menachos.

Implied question: It says in Pesachim (36a) about kneading Menachos "granted, it is not done through zealous people (Kohanim), but it is done in a place of zealous people" (i.e. it must be kneaded in the Azarah)!

Answer: It discusses the normal case. It is normally done in a place of zealous people.

Implied question: It says below (88a) that a Kli Shares is not Mekadesh to cause something to be offered, but it is Mekadesh to be disqualified!

Answer: [It is disqualified] through a Tevul Yom, Mechusar Kipurim or through Linah, but not through Yotzei!

Question: This requires investigation, what Rashi explained in Menachos (87b) regarding the Shulchan "but it is Mekadesh to become disqualified through Linah or Yotzei";

And [also it is difficult what] Rashi explained below (88a), [that Klei Shares] are Mekadesh [Kodesh] to be disqualified through Yotzei if it went outside the curtains (the Azarah), or if a Tevul Yom touched it.

Implied question #1: It says in Menachos (95b) "the same law applies to Shtei ha'Lechem and Lechem ha'Panim. Kneading and arranging [making loaves] may be done outside [the Azarah]. This shows that dry measures did not become Kodesh." (I.e. if they were Kodesh, the Pesul of Yotzei would apply!)

Implied question #2: In Menachos (63a), R. Shimon expounded that it says "Tanur" twice, to teach that [Minchas Ma'afe Tanur] must be baked in an oven and made Hekdesh in an oven;

It asks that R. Shimon says that one should say that Shtei ha'Lechem and Lechem ha'Panim are Kosher whether [they were baked] in the Azarah, or in Beis Pagi. (I.e. the oven is never Mekadesh. If it were, they would be disqualified due to Yotzei!)

Answer: This is not because if it became Kodesh it would be disqualified due to Yotzei. Rather, it is repulsive to take it outside after it became Kodesh.

Question: Since it is not disqualified due to Yotzei [even] through Kedushas Kli, Minchas Kohanim and Chavitei Kohen Gadol, for which there is no Kemitzah, from when are they disqualified due to Yotzei?

Answer: Perhaps for them, Kidush Kli helps. (Shitah Mekubetzes - we find like this in Me'ilah (10a). Something without Matirin, Kidush Kli helps for it, to enable one to be liable for it for Nosar and Tamei.)

Defense (of Rashi's Explanation): For this reason, Rashi's Perush here is feasible.

Question: Here it connotes that if he entered [the water] in a Kli Shares inside and was Mekadesh, his Avodah is Kosher. This shows that it is not disqualified through the water leaving!

Answer #1: Hesech Da'as does not apply to water, the way it applies to hands.

Answer #2: Only inside [the Azarah], a Kli is Mekadesh to become Pasul through Yotzei, like it connotes in Sukah (50a);

[The Gemara] asks that we should bring [water for Nisuch ha'Mayim to the Azarah] in a Kodesh Kli.

Answer #3: Also, this is like we explained that a Kli is not Mekadesh to become Pasul through Yotzei until its Mitzvah is done, i.e. Kidush, like a Minchah [is not Mekudash] until Kemitzah.

Support: This is why we ask about Kidush of hands and feet more than about water.

Question: We should resolve from here that Yotzei does not help [to disqualify Kidush], for it connotes that if he left for no reason (not to urinate or defecate), leaving does not disqualify!

Answer: Surely, if he left at the time of Avodah, he is not disqualified through this, since he delays only a little. (We cannot infer about a long delay.)