THINNING OUT VINES (Yerushalmi Peah Perek 7 Halachah 4 Daf 33a)
משנה המדל בגפנים כשם שהוא מידל בתוך שלו כך הוא מידל בשל עניים דברי רבי יהודא
(Mishnah) (R. Yehuda): One who thins out vines (to allow improved growth of grapes) - he may thin out what belongs to the poor just as he does for his own.
ר''מ אומר בשלו הוא רשאי ואינו רשאי בשל עניים:
(R. Meir): He may only thin out his own but not what belongs to the poor.
גמרא הכל מודים במוכר לחבירו עשרה אשכולות שיהא אסור ליגע בהן [דף לג עמוד ב] הכל מודים בשותף כשם שהוא מידל בתוך שלו כך הוא מידל בתוך של חבירו
(Gemara): All agree that if one sold 10 clusters to his friend, he may not touch them. All agree about a partner, that just as one may thin out that which is his, he may thin out that which is his partner's.
[דף סג עמוד א (עוז והדר)] רבי יהודא עביד ליה כשותף רבי מאיר עביד ליה כמוכר
R. Yehuda (above) viewed a poor man like a partner; R. Meir viewed him like a buyer (so the owner - 'the seller' - cannot touch the poor man's produce).
אמר ליה רבי אימי הגע עצמך שאכלתן חיה אין תעבדינא כשותף יהא חייב לשלם לו:
(R. Ami): (How could the poor be like partners?) If the Olelos were eaten by a wild animal, if they are like partners, the owner would have to replace the Olelos!
א''ר יוחנן נראית מוחלפת שיטתו של רבי יהודא תמן הוא אומר בין כך ובין כך נוטלן ומניחן על הגדר והעני בא ונוטל את שלו וכא הוא אומר הכין
Question (R. Yochanan): It seems that the opinion of R. Yehuda has switched - earlier (in Perek 5 Mishnah 3 - Zevachim 52-1(c)-(d) - this question is also asked there) he said that (if one who waters his field before the poor passed through it,) either way, the owner should collect the Leket and place it on the fence and the poor should come and take it (to prevent a loss for the poor). But here R. Yehuda said that one may also thin out what belongs to the poor?
מתוך שהוא מעכן הוא עושה יותר לשנה הבאה
Answer: It is different here - since he is pressing them and thinning them out, they will produce more the following year, so it is beneficial for the poor.
ואמור אוף הכא מתוך שהוא מרבצה היא עושת יותר לשנה הבאה
Question: This should also apply to one who waters his field, since it will be beneficial to the poor the following year?
א''ל מצוי הוא לזורעה ירק ולהבריחה מן העניים:
Answer: There, since the custom is to plant seeds one year and vegetables the next year, we are concerned that he will plant vegetables the following year, that are exempt from Peah, and cause a loss to the poor.
KEREM REVAY AND THE POOR (Yerushalmi Peah Perek 7 Halachah 5 Daf 33b)
משנה כרם רבעי ב''ש אומרים אין לו חומש ואין לו ביעור ובה''א יש לו
(Mishnah): Kerem Revay (fruits of the fourth year of a vine, that are holy and must be taken to Yerushalayim, similar to Maaser Sheni produce. For other trees, this status is known as Netah Revay) - Beis Shammai says that one does not add a fifth when it is redeemed and it does not need to be removed (Biur) in the fourth and seventh years of the Shemittah cycle. Beis Hillel requires these two things.
בש''א יש לו פרט ויש לו עוללות ועניים פודים לעצמן
(Beis Shammai): Peret and Olelos apply to it and the poor redeem it for themselves.
[דף סג עמוד ב (עוז והדר)] ובה''א כולו לגת:
(Beis Hillel): All of it goes to the winepress (and it is then taken to Yerushalayim).
גמרא תני רבי אומר לא אמרו ב''ש אלא בשביעית אבל בשאר שני שבוע בש''א יש לו חומש ויש לו ביעור
(Gemara) (Baraisa): Rebbi says that Beis Shammai only said this about Shevi'is, but in all other years, Beis Shammai says that one must add a fifth and the law of Biur applies.
על דעתיה דהדין תניא לא למדו נטע רבעי אלא ממע''ש כמה דתימר אין מע''ש בשביעית דכוותי' אין נטע רבעי בשביעי'
According to Rebbi, Beis Shammai also learned Netah Revay from Maaser Sheni - just as there is no obligation of Maaser Sheni in Sheviis, so there is no obligation of (the redemption and adding a fifth to) Netah Revay in Sheviis.
מעתה אל יהא לו קדושה
Question: If it is learned from Maaser Sheni in Sheviis, Netah Revay should not apply at all in Sheviis and it should not require redemption or to be eaten in Yerushalayim?
קדושתה מאיליו למדו (ויקרא יט) קודש הילולים הרי הוא כקודש שקורין עליו את ההלל
Answer: Only adding a fifth and Biur are learned from Maaser Sheni, but the other laws are learned from its own pasuk, as the pasuk states (Vayikra 19:24), "(In the fourth year, all its fruit) shall be sanctified to praise Hashem'' - they are like Bikurim, that a declaration of praise to Hash-m is said over them.
ויהא מותר לאונן
Question: Even though an Onen (a person whose close relative was buried that day) may not eat Netah Revay, he should be permitted it in Sheviis - since Netah Revay is learned from Maaser Sheni, when Maaser Sheni does not apply, this prohibition should not apply...?
תני קודש מגיד שהוא אסור לאונן
Answer: The Torah says 'shall be sanctified' - to teach that it is prohibited to an Onen like sacrifices.
ויהא חייב בביעור
Question: Since it is learned from Bikurim, it should be obligated in Biur in Sheviis?
בגין דר''ש פוטר בביעור
Answer: Beis Shammai agree with R. Shimon that Bikurim are exempt from Biur.
ויפדה במחובר לקרקע
Question: In Sheviis, one should be able to redeem it with things attached to the ground (since the prohibition to do this was learned from Maaser Sheni, which does not apply in Sheviis)? (This question remains unanswered.)
[דף סד עמוד א (עוז והדר)] תני רשב''ג א' שביעית וא' [דף לד עמוד א] שאר שני שבוע בש''א אין לו חומש ואין לו ביעור
Baraisa (R. Shimon ben Gamliel): (Disagreeing with Rebbi above (c) & (d)) Both in Sheviis and in other years, Beis Shammai says that Netah Revay is exempt from adding a fifth and from Biur.
על דעתיה דהדין תניי לא למדו נטע רבעי ממעשר שני כל עיקר מעתה אל יהא לו קדושה
(The Gemara now asks and responds to all of the questions that were asked to Rebbi about Sheviis, but here they are questioning the view of R. Shimon ben Gamliel.) According to R. Shimon ben Gamliel, they did not learn Netah Revay from Maaser Sheni at all. If so, Netah Revay should not apply at all in Sheviis and it should not require redemption or to be eaten in Yerushalayim?
קדושתו מאיליו למדו קודש הילולים הרי הוא כקודש שקורין עליו את ההלל
Answer: Its laws are learned from its own pasuk, as the pasuk states (Vayikra 19:24), "(In the fourth year, all its fruit) shall be sanctified to praise Hashem'' - they are like Bikurim, that a declaration of praise to Hash-m is said over them.
ויהא מותר לאונן
Question: It should be permitted to an Onen?
תני קודש הילולים מגיד שהוא אסור לאונן
Answer: The Torah says 'shall be sanctified' - to teach that it is prohibited to an Onen like sacrifices.
ויהא חייב בביעור
Question: Since it is learned from Bikurim, it should be obligated in Biur in Sheviis?
בגין דר''ש פוטר בביעור
Answer: Beis Shammai agree with R. Shimon that Bikurim are exempt from Biur.
ויפדה במחובר לקרקע:
Question: One should be able to redeem it with things attached to the ground? (This question remains unanswered.)