(R. Yanai): Also the first (Mishnah 1:7, she checks herself morning and evening, and before Bi'ah) is called Tzenu'ah.

Question: Our Mishnah says that they must check, and you say so (that one who does so is called Tzenu'ah)?!

Answer (R. Ila): This teaches that anyone who fulfils Chachamim's words is called Tzenu'a.

(R. Yirmeyah citing Rav): If she checked with a hand that was not checked, or part of her body impacted her Ervah, [and she found blood on her hand or that part of her body], the Chazakah of her body (including her hand) is as if it was checked (we assume that the blood is from her Ervah).

Support (R. Ze'ira - Mishnah): If blood is found on his cloth, they are Teme'im, and they must bring a Korban. (We assume that the blood is from her, for his Ever is as if it was checked.) Is it not that the entire body is as if it was checked?

Rebuttal (R. Chaninah): The case is, he had checked [his Ever, but if not, it is not as if it was checked].

R. Ze'ira was upset. He said, is it normal for a man to do so?! (It is unreasonable to say that our Mishnah discusses such a bizarre case.)

(R. Ze'irah citing R. Yirmeyah): Until k'Gris (the size of a bean), she attributes [a stain of blood to a louse. If it is] more than this, she needs a Masla (a different source to attribute it to. If not, we attribute it to her, and she is Safek Tamei, due to the stain.)

They say that R. Yirmeyah retracted [and said that she is Vadai Tamei].

They say that when he heard the words of Rabanan (below), he retracted.

Rebbi was praising R. Chama, the father of R. Hoshayah, in front of R. Yishmael bei Rebbi Yosi;

Question (R. Chama, the father of R. Hoshayah, to R. Yishmael bei Rebbi Yosi): If she checked with a hand that was not checked, or part of her body impacted her Ervah, [what is the law]?

R. Yishmael bei Rebbi Yosi: According to whom do you ask me?

R. Chama: [I ask] according to the Rav (your father, R. Yosi) and according to the Talmid (Rebbi, i.e. R. Yehudah ha'Nasi).

Answer (R. Yishmael): My father said [that she is Safek Tamei, due to] a stain. Rebbi said [that she is Vadai Tamei, due to] a sighting.

R. Yishmael (to Rebbi): You praise this one [who wants to know also the Talmid's opinion]?!

R. Ze'irah: A person enjoys hearing his Rebbi's reason (this is why R. Chama asked also according to Rebbi. We explained this like ALEI TAMAR.)

If she checked herself and placed [the cloth] in a glass flask [and later saw blood on it], R. Chiyah said [that she is Safek Tamei, due to] a stain. Rebbi said [that she is Vadai Tamei, due to] a sighting.

Question (R. Chiyah, to Rebbi): Do you not give to her a Masla? (Perhaps it is from a louse!)

Answer (R. Bun bar Chiyah): Rebbi holds that flasks are checked from Sheratzim, but they are not checked from a louse;

Up to a k'Gris she attributes [to a louse; even Rebbi is Metaher]. More than this, to what can she attribute it?! (It must be from her.)

(Mishnah): If blood is found on his cloth, they are both Teme'im. (Surely he was Bo'el Nidah.) Each must bring a Korban;

If she checked herself Avasiyos (immediately after Bi'ah) and found blood, they are both Teme'im and bring Korbanos;

If she did a Bedikah later and found blood, they do not bring a Korban. Their Tum'ah is Safek. (He is Safek Bo'el Nidah. She is surely Nidah now, but perhaps she was not during Bi'ah);

(Gemara - Beraisa): Whether or not it was found Hayosiyos, when it was found on his [they are Teme'im and bring Korbanos];

[When it was found on hers, only if it was] Hayosiyos, they are Teme'im. Hayosiyos [suffices for] cleaning (passing a cloth over the Ervah, but) Hayosiyos does not suffice for a Bedikah (in which the cloth is pressed into all crevices and cavities inside).

(Rav Huna): [It suffices for] cleaning the Ervah externally, but not ]for a Bedikah, which must check] what is in cavities and crevices and inside.

Question (to Rav Nachman bar Yakov): Must a woman do Bedikah within Hayosiyos [after Bi'ah, to know whether or not they are Chayav Korban]?

Answer #1 (R. Ba): If you will say that she needs Bedikah within Hayosiyos, [before she finishes Bedikah, the Shi'ur of] Hayosiyos expired. (It is impossible to do Bedikah within Hayosiyos.)

Answer #2 (R. Yosi bei R. Bun): If you will say that she needs Bedikah within Hayosiyos, it is not like a Pekidah (proper Bedikah) to reduce [retroactive Tum'ah] from me'Es la'Es, but a Mishnah (1:1) teaches that it is a Pekidah to reduce from me'Es la'Es!

(R. Yosi bei R. Bun): A parable for this is a servant and a witness who were standing in back of the doorway. The servant left and the witness entered [immediately; i.e., right after the Ever left, the cloth entered] - this is Hayosiyos.

(Mishnah): They are exempt from a Korban.

They are exempt from Chatas, but they are obligated Asham Taluy.