1)

Does the Torah really mean that the entire town must stone the Ben Sorer u'Moreh?

1.

Sifri: No! What the Torah means is that all the town's residents are present when he is stoned.

2)

Why does the Torah write here "u'regamuhu ... ba'Avanim" and in Kedoshim, Vahikra, 20:2 - in connection with someone who gives his child to Molech "Am ha'Aretz Yirgemuhu ba'Aven"?

1.

Sanhedrin, 70a: To teach us that, although initially, one stone (on to which he is pushed) will suffice, in the event that he does not die immediately, they throw another stone (or stones) on him.

3)

Why does the Torah not write "Yad ha'Eidim Tih'yeh bo ba'Rishonah la'Hamiso", like it does in Devarim 17:7 - in connection with an Oveid Avodah Zarah, or "Yadcha (even the father or the mother) Tih'yeh bo ba'Rishonah", like it does by a Meisis, Ibid. 13:10?

1.

Oznayim la'Torah: Because they only saw the Ben Sorer u'Moreh meat and drink wine with money that he stole from his parents, whereas he is being put to death for sins that has not yet perform.

4)

What did the ben Sorer u'Moreh do to deserve the death-penalty?

1.

Rashi (citing Sanhedrin, 71a), Seforno (in brief): He stole from his parents a Tartimar (a large measure) of meat and half a Log of wine, and consumed it. That in itself is not sufficient reason to receive the death-sentence. Rather, it is due to his end. After he consumes all his father's money, in order to finance his addiction, he will become a highway-robber. The Torah therefore rules that 'It is better that he die whilst he is still (relatively) innocent than that he die guilty.

2.

Ramban (in Pasuk 18): A ben Sorer u'Moreh is Chayav for committing three basic sins: 1. for treating his parents with disrespect and rebelling against them; 2. for transgressing the Mitzvah of "Kedoshim Tih'yu" 1 via his gluttony and drunkenness; 2 3. for contravening "ve'Oso Sa'avodu u'Bo Sidbakun" 3 , or it is a branch of Kibud Av va'Eim. Nevertheless, he is not sentenced due to his Aveirah, rather, due to his end - See answer #1


2

Refer also to 21:21:1:1**.

3

13:5. - To know Hashem in all our ways. See Ramban on 6:13.

5)

What are the connotations of "ve'Chol Yisrael Yishme'u Veyira'u"?

1.

Ramban: The Torah inserts this phrase whenever the person is not really deserving of the death-sentence, 1 and he is only being put to death as a warning to the community at large or so that he should not cause others to sin. 2

2.

Sanhedrin, 89a: It implies that Beis-Din is obligated to publicize the Ben Sorer u'Moreh's death. 3


1

Refer also to 21:21:1:1**.

2

Ramban: As we find by Zakein Mamrei, Eidim Zomemin and Meisis (17:13, 19:20 & 13:12, respectively. See Ramban DH 've'Chein').

3

See Torah Temimah, note 154.

6)

What are the connotations of "u'Vi'arta ha'Ra mi'Kirbecha"?

1.

: Refer to Devarim 13:6:5:1:2.

7)

Why does the Torah write by Meisis, Ben Sorer u'Moreh and Zaken Mamrei "ve'Chol ha'Am Yishme'u Veyira'u " (or "ve'Chol Yisrael)" c (13:12, 17:13), and by Eidim Zomemin (19:20), "ve'ha'Nish'arim Yishme'u Veyira'u "?

1.

Refer to 17:13:152:1 & 2 and note.

QUESTIONS ON RASHI

8)

Rashi writes that he is sentenced due to his end; he will become a highway robber. But a murderer receives death by the sword, so why is the ben Sorer u'Moreh stoned - which is a more stringent form of death?

1.

Rosh #1: Because in his capatown as a highway robber, he will also desecrate Shabbos, for which one is sentenced to stoning. 1

2.

Rosh #2 and Da'as Zekenim: Since he did not heed his parents, it is as if he cursed them, for which one is sentenced to stoning. 2


1

See also Torah Temimah, note 53.

2

This is difficult, for one is liable for cursing them only with Hashem's name (Sanhedrin 7:8). The Chachamim exempt for cursing with a Kinuy! Perhaps this is why Hadar Zekenim and Moshav Zekenim left this difficult (PF).

9)

Rashi writes that the Be Sorer is killed due to his end. But Hashem judges a person "ba'Asher Hu Sham" - based on the present, and not according to his future sins - as we learned by Yishmael, in Vayeira Bereishis, 21:17?

1.

Moshav Zekenim: A ben Sorer u'Moreh is different since, as opposed to Yishmael who was being judged, not for his own sins, 1 but for the sins of his descendants, he has already begun transgressing the sins which would lead to the more serious transgressions later.


1

Moshav Zekenim: Even though the Torah wrote that Yishmael was Metzachek, and Rashi explained (21:7) that this refers to idolatry and murder, regarding water, he had not sinned.

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